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8/10/2017  1:36 PM
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RSparrow2 wrote:I am Independent, split between each Party and Independents. I fully support Trump, can anyone seriously support anyone from the crooked, murderous, cheating, lieing Democratic Party? or the do nothing Republican Party in Congress?

Do you think Trump is an honest man? I get the annoyance with the democratic Party, but I don't get why you support a crook like Trump if honesty and decency is important to you

Is there any politician that is honest? Trey Gowdy has integrity and is as close as it gets.

We have basically two choices every election, although I've voted for 3rd party that had no chance.

Where is Trump crooked? are you talking about the Russia investigation in which the highest funded Investigative Agency (FBI) and spy agency (CIA)in the history of mankind has found NO EVIDENCE of anything, Hillary on the other hand was a PROVEN viral liar. or maybe you are talking about the daily lies and scandals CNN, NY Times and Wash Post make up? then retract <sometimes>

When it comes down to it, what the Democratic Party has shown itself to be over the last 18 months, with their many scandals, what their supports have done, what they have NOT spoken out against,they are not a Party I will support anytime soon. As a matter of fact I am voting their Party out, 2nd time I'll be doing this (Republican Party after Bush and their lies about Iraq). Also Trump has shown to everyone that the media is crooked and NOT FREE and objective, controlled by a few people and their political agenda, basically a Socialist media.

I'm all for his bringing jobs back (already rolling), cancel bad free trade agreements (TPP shot down), improving the economy (already rolling) enforcing the laws (already rolling) and draining the swamp (coming soon, all this other peripheral stuff is just garbage and posturing I could care less about.

The economy has not grown any more under Trump than it was under Obama. the only difference is that the same numbers that Trump was saying were wrong and over inflated during the elections or the numbers that he now claims show that the economy is improving. Now the stock market has done better under Trump because investors anticipate that he will do another windfall for the rich and corporations. But that is paper growth that will burst as soon as everyone realizes that this guy cannot pass any of this legilsative initiatives because they are not well thought out and will lead us to ruin. Check the numbers, the economy is not growing any more than it was growing under Obama in his last year. Compare last summers growth numbers to this summers. They are virtually the same. Trump is just taking credit for an economy that was already growing, which he is about to collapse with his policies if they ever actually get implemented.

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8/10/2017  2:34 PM
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

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8/10/2017  3:19 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

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8/10/2017  3:22 PM
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

Who are you taking to and what fukking excuse for stupidity?

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8/10/2017  4:19 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

Who are you taking to and what fukking excuse for stupidity?

I was addressing your last post directly, to which I disagreed. Should I have checked with you first, before posting? lol

Stupidity by our former president.

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8/10/2017  4:22 PM
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

Who are you taking to and what fukking excuse for stupidity?

I was addressing your last post directly, to which I disagreed. Should I have checked with you first, before posting? lol

Stupidity by our former president.

Regarding what? I can't tell what you are talking about

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8/10/2017  5:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/10/2017  5:57 PM
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

If I thought that voter fraud was a serious problem I would agree with you. Voting machine fraud by both parties, or other actors, thats another story.

If you really came out of the 8 years of Obama and decided voter fraud was a big issue. After the democrats suffered the worse midterm losses since reconstruction, after Trump won, republicans won a majority in both houses, then I dont know what to tell you.

Actually yes I do, stop treating politics like a team sport.

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8/10/2017  6:03 PM
martin wrote:
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
gr33d wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It can happen here. This ain't your Daddy's Republican party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.1d75d2fcb871


After a series of initial questions, respondents were asked whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs. These questions evoke arguments frequently made by Trump and others about the integrity of the 2016 election.

Then the survey asked two questions about postponing the 2020 election.

If Donald Trump were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote, would you support or oppose postponing the election?

What if both Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress were to say that the 2020 presidential election should be postponed until the country can make sure that only eligible American citizens can vote? Would you support or oppose postponing the election?


Roughly half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote — and would support postponing the 2020 election.

Nearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That's scary. The survey is sowing the seeds for a dictatorship in the minds of the most gullible and least intellectually honest people, simply by asking the question. It won't take a stretch of imagination for some of them to actively start asking for this. These are people who only want things their way and could care less about who gets hurt in the process.

What's scary is zero accountability and refusal to address the problem.

It's gone on for years and Obama all but encouraged it... Telling these folks, their votes were confidential and nobody investigates voter rolls.

We have more strict laws in place for fishing without a license, then we do for illegally voting in presidential elections.

Stop making excuses for stupidity.

Who are you taking to and what fukking excuse for stupidity?

I was addressing your last post directly, to which I disagreed. Should I have checked with you first, before posting? lol

Stupidity by our former president.

Regarding what? I can't tell what you are talking about

I can't either. I posted about a category of Republican voters being dumb enough to think delaying the election and keeping Trump in power was a good idea. Apparently he responded directly to my post but said nothing on the subject? And then he accused me for making excuses for Obama encouraging voter fraud. I mean where the fukk do these people come about with this shyte from?

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8/10/2017  6:49 PM
Trump has exposed the level of STUPIDITY amongst the American Electorate that was always there but didn't have a champion to get behind. The Archie Bunker Class has always been there and this was their perfect storm. Hillary was possibly the only person that could lose to such an idiot but then with all the HELP Trump got from Comey, Russia and Wikileaks. Paired with the Lack of passion for Hillary and the Bernie and Jill Stein crowd thinking it was OK to make a statement vote rather than make sure Trump didn't win.

I remain forever irate at those who voted for Trump or against Hillary when they KNEW Trump was a walking disaster. We've never seen such dangerous incompetence. Meanwhile the Congress is equally vapid and inept. This is the TRIFECTA of ignorance and craven politics. Real people are being hurt and more will be hurt in the future by giving the Republicans and Trump control of the country. SMDH

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nixluva wrote:Trump has exposed the level of STUPIDITY amongst the American Electorate that was always there but didn't have a champion to get behind. The Archie Bunker Class has always been there and this was their perfect storm. Hillary was possibly the only person that could lose to such an idiot but then with all the HELP Trump got from Comey, Russia and Wikileaks. Paired with the Lack of passion for Hillary and the Bernie and Jill Stein crowd thinking it was OK to make a statement vote rather than make sure Trump didn't win.

I remain forever irate at those who voted for Trump or against Hillary when they KNEW Trump was a walking disaster. We've never seen such dangerous incompetence. Meanwhile the Congress is equally vapid and inept. This is the TRIFECTA of ignorance and craven politics. Real people are being hurt and more will be hurt in the future by giving the Republicans and Trump control of the country. SMDH

i'd like to think we live in a dumb as f ck country. not trump's fault we are dumb - it's years and years of politicians making sure we stay dumb...but trump exposed it all and has manipulated and used the uneducated.

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8/11/2017  4:41 PM
djsunyc wrote:it's years and years of politicians making sure we stay dumb...

How'd they do that?

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8/11/2017  9:33 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
djsunyc wrote:it's years and years of politicians making sure we stay dumb...

How'd they do that?

by not making educating it's population a top priority.

world's greatest country ranks near the bottom of 35 industrialized nations in math. what is math? analytical thinking...logic. keep folks from thinking analytically or logically and they can consume slogans and be easily pursuaded in all facets of life. keep 'em dumb and you can easily use fear to manipulate.

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8/12/2017  1:30 PM
The fascist bigoted alt right that are empowered by Trump are showing their contempt for America with the protests in Charlottesville.
Bring back dee-fense
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JesseDark wrote:The fascist bigoted alt right that are empowered by Trump are showing their contempt for America with the protests in Charlottesville.

folks that voted trump turned a blind eye to the racist campaign and what could transpire when putting white nationalists in power. careless and reckless vote...or exactly what they wanted.

this presidency took the entire country two steps back - pathetic.

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djsunyc wrote:
JesseDark wrote:The fascist bigoted alt right that are empowered by Trump are showing their contempt for America with the protests in Charlottesville.

folks that voted trump turned a blind eye to the racist campaign and what could transpire when putting white nationalists in power. careless and reckless vote...or exactly what they wanted.

this presidency took the entire country two steps back - pathetic.

I don't think they turned a blind eye to it, I think it very much represented their views

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smackeddog wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
JesseDark wrote:The fascist bigoted alt right that are empowered by Trump are showing their contempt for America with the protests in Charlottesville.

folks that voted trump turned a blind eye to the racist campaign and what could transpire when putting white nationalists in power. careless and reckless vote...or exactly what they wanted.

this presidency took the entire country two steps back - pathetic.

I don't think they turned a blind eye to it, I think it very much represented their views

true dat. wtf is wrong with white people? seriously.

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8/12/2017  6:13 PM
Opinion | Making Affirmative Action White Again - The New York Times

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/sunday/making-affirmative-action-white-again.html?referer=

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Knickoftime wrote:Opinion | Making Affirmative Action White Again - The New York Times

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/sunday/making-affirmative-action-white-again.html?referer=

let's cut them some slack. 8 years of a black president...i mean that's generations worth of suffering.

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Off Topic: six months later, do people who voted for Trump still support this guy?

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