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BRIGGS
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7/16/2017  8:48 AM
They have more goods. It's a nice area with a good owner and a team of various stars If Melo rejects this if a reasonable deal can be done than well have to accept he's a knick next year. That's ok too but no way would I take less from houston
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reub
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7/16/2017  8:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:They have more goods. It's a nice area with a good owner and a team of various stars If Melo rejects this if a reasonable deal can be done than well have to accept he's a knick next year. That's ok too but no way would I take less from houston

Portland is a better trading partner but Melo won't go there.
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7/16/2017  8:57 AM
Teams want Melo. Never a bad thing. some thought nobody would!

NTC will prevail. Does boston ever Jump in??? Even with Haywood? I doubt it but they got treasure to give!!!!

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7/16/2017  9:02 AM
does Portland want to trade for him, or do they want long term cap relief?
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7/16/2017  9:04 AM
reub wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:They have more goods. It's a nice area with a good owner and a team of various stars If Melo rejects this if a reasonable deal can be done than well have to accept he's a knick next year. That's ok too but no way would I take less from houston

Portland is a better trading partner but Melo won't go there.

Is there a way to make a straight up deal that doesn't involved us taking Crabbe or Turner.
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BRIGGS
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7/16/2017  9:04 AM
franco12 wrote:does Portland want to trade for him, or do they want long term cap relief?

Lol so true

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7/16/2017  9:17 AM
good more teams pushes up his price but the ntc lowers it right back.
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7/16/2017  9:42 AM
franco12 wrote:does Portland want to trade for him, or do they want long term cap relief?

Good point for Portland its a win win win. At worst by dealing for Melo they dump a year off the books in at least Harkless and Leonard. If Melo opts out they win again with 2 years of cap relief. Melo would still be a great draw for them for this season I'm sure their marketing and sales people would love it. To bad Melo won't go although he should. They have some nice pieces

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7/16/2017  10:03 AM
They're like why help another western conference team get twice as better as you.
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7/16/2017  10:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2017  11:34 AM
Nurkic would be a player Id like to see Perry go after in a trade with Portland. Put him next to KP, and that would be a mean front line at times, as well as a frontcourt with Willy and Nurkic as well.

A sign and trade of Nurkic for Melo and O'Quinn might be something they consider. Nurkic is up for a contract extension, this would be the time to do it.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/4/13/15125420/portland-trail-blazers-most-expensive-first-round-nba-draft-pick-history

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7/16/2017  11:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2017  11:21 AM
Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

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7/16/2017  11:21 AM
That's all good but Melo doesn't want that he is already making his bed in Houston. Looking for a place to stay and all. I'm in favor of him going to Houston the deal needs a little work. If the Knicks take back Anderson then the draft pick compensation has to be better on the Rockets part.
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7/16/2017  11:33 AM
https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/6/29/15898088/should-the-portland-trail-blazers-offer-jusuf-nurkic-a-contract-extension-2017-nba-free-agency

Weighs the pros and cons of giving Nurkic a long term deal.

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7/16/2017  11:39 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

No way they give up Nurkic. Best we could probably get is Harkless and picks. They could probably still get a pick from another team for one of their Roleplayers too to add to the assets they send for Melo.

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7/16/2017  11:53 AM
wargames wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

No way they give up Nurkic. Best we could probably get is Harkless and picks. They could probably still get a pick from another team for one of their Roleplayers too to add to the assets they send for Melo.

They're in a cap hell, might be players (other than KP and Willy) that they might want to get back in addition to Melo that would make it more appetizing. The team is built to win now.

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7/16/2017  11:56 AM
Melo is not going to Portland. Why are Portland trades still coming up?
We need for Lebron to show some more interest in him to raise his value. I would trade Melo to the Cavs for two future firsts (2020 and 2022?) because they will be lottery picks.
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7/16/2017  12:00 PM
wargames wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

No way they give up Nurkic. Best we could probably get is Harkless and picks. They could probably still get a pick from another team for one of their Roleplayers too to add to the assets they send for Melo.


Yup...I was under the impression that he was a centerpiece for them. The big concern with him seems to be injuries.

Can't see them giving him up.

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7/16/2017  12:58 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

There's no question that we could get a better package from Portland then we could get from Houston or Clev, we could also get a better return from Wash, OKC, Phoenix and other teams but he's still not gonna go to Portland or any of the other teams. Our big mistake was letting this thing with Houston look so much like it was gonna get done and getting Melo's hopes up that he was gonna play with CP3 and Harden and not have to pay state taxes cause now he doesn't even want to think about any other destinations, not that he did before but he definitely doesn't now.

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7/16/2017  1:02 PM
wargames wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Portland believes with Melo they can be a top 4 team.
Because they won't be giving up CJ or Lillard.

So Collins, Leonard, Melo, CJ, Lillard starting 5.
Bench rotations in with Davis, Turner, Crabbe and Napier as regulars off the bench.
That's a 50 win team in the West,

IMO they would give up if pushed

Nurkic
Mo Harkless
Aminu

That's a great deal for us.
We should push for that trade and RUN.

Melo would stall it, but we would say one of two things.

Either come play off the bench with the Knicks or on a 28 minute restriction as a starter. Or accept the deal to the Blazers who with you would be a top 5 team in the West.

For us

Nurkic/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Kuzminskas
Aminu/Harkless
Hardaway/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

We would have one of the best Center rotations in the NBA with Nurkic/Hernangomez.
At 4 a real nice blend of KP/Kuz, Kuz more of a stretch 4, KP more of a big 4 that can play all over the floor.
At 3, it's a stop gap, role players, but young and active. Longterm may need to find a higher impact and skilled starting 3.
At 2 we have THj to carry the load.
At 1, Baker starts for steady play on PG as a stop gap, and Frank develops as his backup . Frank's a longterm investment at 1.

Longterm in mind

Nurkic or Hernangomez (Could trade one of them for a starting 3 with high skill)
Porzingis
3 (Attained by trading one of Nurkic/Hernangomez)
Hardaway
Ntilikina

I think that's a great re-build that is FAST. Within a year from now we would be young, and have a starting 5 that's got a high skill, high impact player, still improving and very young.

No way they give up Nurkic. Best we could probably get is Harkless and picks. They could probably still get a pick from another team for one of their Roleplayers too to add to the assets they send for Melo.

I'm pretty sure they'd offer up more than that and with the Z.Collins pick i wouldn't doubt if they would trade us Nurkic, it would take some talking but to get Melo i think they'd consider it and we could add KOQ in the deal.

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7/16/2017  1:04 PM
I'm failing to see where an attractive $26m+ comes back from Portland, alone.

Harkless and Nurkic doesn't even get you 1/2 way there.

Now Portland wants to trade for Melo

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