Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

If thats the option I would wait and enter a situation where we are telling Melo to show up to camp in shape. If he's a douche in the lockerroom we can go from there. Maybe they are keeping Rambis around just to bother Melo when he reports to camp

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y73tt7h3

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

More reasonable. I ran a trade through that worked also. Melo/Noah for Anderson/Gordan/Capella and Black. Ideally we could flip Gordan and Lee, or move them both somehow. These options suck. They all involve taking on guys with 3 years.

If thats the option I would wait and enter a situation where we are telling Melo to show up to camp in shape. If he's a douche in the lockerroom we can go from there. Maybe they are keeping Rambis around just to bother Melo when he reports to camp

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

We already have Willy and KOQ. I'm not THAT interested in Capella. If they were willing to take Noah, that would be a different story. I wouldn't even insist on the 2020 pick.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

We already have Willy and KOQ. I'm not THAT interested in Capella. If they were willing to take Noah, that would be a different story. I wouldn't even insist on the 2020 pick.

KOQ would be moved in the trade. I don't think anyone is taking Noah. He might get stretched but I think the Knicks need to wait a year or two before doing that.

Right. I'm saying having KOQ and Willy at center is good enough that we don't need to make changes at center. I don't see enough added value from Capela to be willing to take back Anderson unless they also take Noah off our hands.

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

We already have Willy and KOQ. I'm not THAT interested in Capella. If they were willing to take Noah, that would be a different story. I wouldn't even insist on the 2020 pick.

KOQ would be moved in the trade. I don't think anyone is taking Noah. He might get stretched but I think the Knicks need to wait a year or two before doing that.

Right. I'm saying having KOQ and Willy at center is good enough that we don't need to make changes at center. I don't see enough added value from Capela to be willing to take back Anderson unless they also take Noah off our hands.

I think giving upnCapela would be their compromise. I don't think they would take Noah under any circumstance.

NYKBocker wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y73tt7h3

If Houston can't take any other team to help then I would gladly make this trade...

Melo and Noah for Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Ariza, Zhou Qi, Sergio Llull and a future 1st round pick.

That is the price for Melo if you want us to take Anderson.

Bonn1997 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Welpee wrote:Houston wants Melo (plus for them) and to unload Anderson (plus for them). So what's the benefit to us again? Houston (and Melo's reps) needs to step up and find a way to make this deal beneficial to us. Otherwise I say just wait it out. No rush on our part.

If Capela was included, i would gladly take Anderson. Would be a big get for this team. A young, up and coming player. I would give them back O'Quinn to replace their center depth. Melo and KOQ for Anderson, Capela, 2020 1st, and their non-guaranteed contracts to make it work. If Houston wants to get Melo while trading Anderson, then Capela and a future 1st is a fair price. They will still have KOQ, Nene, and T Black at center, so it leaves them plenty of depth.

That deal makes a lot of sense and also removes the complications of a three team deal. Is Capela a free agent after this year? It might be another incentive for Houston to move him.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y73tt7h3

If Houston can't take any other team to help then I would gladly make this trade...

Melo and Noah for Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon, Ariza, Zhou Qi, Sergio Llull and a future 1st round pick.

That is the price for Melo if you want us to take Anderson.

Interesting. Is Llull a PG? Is he going to play in the US next season? How highly regarded is he?

Llull is regarded as the best PG outside of the USA. Having KP, Willy, Kuz and Frank might entice him to finally come over to the NBA. Zhou Qi is another prospect that is very intriguing.

Paris907 wrote:Several of you want CApEla and I like him as well. He's coming into his own. Yet where are Wilys minutes? I mean we have bigs now so that capela or Nerlens, while talented mean that Wily sits or is unloaded. WhAt am I missing?

Well, we're getting rid of Noah. I'm OK with Capella and Willy getting 28 and 20 mpg.

Paris907 wrote:Several of you want CApEla and I like him as well. He's coming into his own. Yet where are Wilys minutes? I mean we have bigs now so that capela or Nerlens, while talented mean that Wily sits or is unloaded. WhAt am I missing?

This is a youth movement, so i run a 3 big man rotation of Porzingis, Willy, and Capela. Anderson will have to get minutes if we got him too. Noah would be odd man out, and serve as a mentor on the bench.