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franco12
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7/8/2017  8:52 AM
it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.
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7/8/2017  8:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2017  8:55 AM
franco12 wrote:it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.

Certainly possible. He might also make his new team better if he has the right attitude. It might be a case where both teams win the trade.
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7/8/2017  9:08 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Suns have cap space as well. So they don't have to send a BS contract back. TJ Warren is almost guranteed to be thrown in due to them drafting Jackson and him being a RFA this offseason and the Knicks probably wanting a 23 yr old SF to go with their core. Warren might have been drafted under JHs tenure as well.

Trade #1 Chriss and Warren would be ideal.
Trade #2 Suns take on Noah with Love and give back Knight, Dudley, & Warren. Edit I would ask for a pick back as well.

Would be a dream come true

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7/8/2017  9:11 AM
Nalod wrote:You mean "Love" to phx? Right?

Yes sorry love and KOQ TO phx while chrisss and melo go to Cavs.
Cavs would look like:
Kyrie
Jr
Melo
Lebron
Thompson

PHX would look like:
Bledsoe
Booker
Jackson
Love
Chandler

Knicks would look like:
Frank
THJR
Warren
Bender
KP


All 3 teams make the playoffs, but of course this is probably a pipe dream

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Ira
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7/8/2017  9:11 AM
franco12 wrote:it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.

Denver got better when he left.

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7/8/2017  9:26 AM
Ira wrote:
franco12 wrote:it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.

Denver got better when he left.

Correct, it would be consistent

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newyorknewyork
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7/8/2017  9:49 AM
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anrst wrote:i would love to get chriss

We already have KP I think a more feasible deal would be for Chriss to go the Cavs and warren bender and knight to NYK with KOQ and Melo to PHX

You have to take Chriss. He has the most potential out of all the moving parts. He compliments KP & Willy perfectly given his skill set to complete a 3 man rotation at PF/C. As he is more agile and & quick and can be groomed to guard stretch 4s an area KP & Willy struggle with.

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7/8/2017  10:55 AM
TPercy wrote:
Nalod wrote:You mean "Love" to phx? Right?

Yes sorry love and KOQ TO phx while chrisss and melo go to Cavs.
Cavs would look like:
Kyrie
Jr
Melo
Lebron
Thompson

PHX would look like:
Bledsoe
Booker
Jackson
Love
Chandler

Knicks would look like:
Frank
THJR
Warren
Bender
KP


All 3 teams make the playoffs, but of course this is probably a pipe dream

I'd be surprised if the Cavs traded Love to take on Melo. Love is the much better and younger player.

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7/8/2017  11:32 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
franco12 wrote:it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.

Certainly possible. He might also make his new team better if he has the right attitude. It might be a case where both teams win the trade.

Making the playoffs is not a win though. Also, I think the Cavs will try to get a player or pick included with Melo since Love has more value. I think the best the Knicks can do is get one young player and a 2nd rd pick.

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7/8/2017  11:33 AM
What makes Bender a starter in the NBA?
His stats and advanced numbers are awful.

From the Suns, I'd want (from who they would give up) Alan Williams and TJ Warren.
Both guys have starter level athleticism and defensive potential.

Williams
Porzingis
Warren
Hardaway
Ntilikina

Athletic, long, defensively skilled lineup.

Willy, Lee, Dotson off the bench give us loads of scoring ablity on the 2nd unit.

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7/8/2017  11:50 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
TPercy wrote:
anrst wrote:i would love to get chriss

We already have KP I think a more feasible deal would be for Chriss to go the Cavs and warren bender and knight to NYK with KOQ and Melo to PHX

You have to take Chriss. He has the most potential out of all the moving parts. He compliments KP & Willy perfectly given his skill set to complete a 3 man rotation at PF/C. As he is more agile and & quick and can be groomed to guard stretch 4s an area KP & Willy struggle with.

I would like Chriss too but I don't think we get him and I would prefer warren to Chriss

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TPercy
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7/8/2017  11:52 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2017  11:52 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:What makes Bender a starter in the NBA?
His stats and advanced numbers are awful.

From the Suns, I'd want (from who they would give up) Alan Williams and TJ Warren.
Both guys have starter level athleticism and defensive potential.

Williams
Porzingis
Warren
Hardaway
Ntilikina

Athletic, long, defensively skilled lineup.

Willy, Lee, Dotson off the bench give us loads of scoring ablity on the 2nd unit.

Bender would be a much better fit here especially given his potential as a point forward. Nevertheless Williams would work well here too

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Bonn1997
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7/8/2017  11:54 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
franco12 wrote:it would be funny if we trade Melo and end up making the play offs.

Certainly possible. He might also make his new team better if he has the right attitude. It might be a case where both teams win the trade.

Making the playoffs is not a win though. Also, I think the Cavs will try to get a player or pick included with Melo since Love has more value. I think the best the Knicks can do is get one young player and a 2nd rd pick.

If it's making the playoffs with youth, I'm OK with that. You get a lower draft pick but a better shot at FAs

nyknickzingis
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7/8/2017  11:54 AM
TPercy wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:What makes Bender a starter in the NBA?
His stats and advanced numbers are awful.

From the Suns, I'd want (from who they would give up) Alan Williams and TJ Warren.
Both guys have starter level athleticism and defensive potential.

Williams
Porzingis
Warren
Hardaway
Ntilikina

Athletic, long, defensively skilled lineup.

Willy, Lee, Dotson off the bench give us loads of scoring ablity on the 2nd unit.

Bender would be a much better fit here especially given his potential as a point forward


What about defense? He's got KP's size without the same level of athleticism.
I was in favor of a KP for Bender, Jackson/4th pick, Chriss trade. In that scenario, Bender is your KP replacement.
To play with KP, though? I don't see it.

Not many guys who had his first season turn out to be very good players.

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7/8/2017  12:03 PM
reub wrote:
TPercy wrote:
Nalod wrote:You mean "Love" to phx? Right?

Yes sorry love and KOQ TO phx while chrisss and melo go to Cavs.
Cavs would look like:
Kyrie
Jr
Melo
Lebron
Thompson

PHX would look like:
Bledsoe
Booker
Jackson
Love
Chandler

Knicks would look like:
Frank
THJR
Warren
Bender
KP


All 3 teams make the playoffs, but of course this is probably a pipe dream

I'd be surprised if the Cavs traded Love to take on Melo. Love is the much better and younger player.

Benders main attribute is his defense. He is very quick on his feet and can cover anyone from 2-4. Imagine that with KP on the defensive end who has the potential to do the same.

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7/8/2017  12:04 PM
Whoops that was a reply to @nyknickszingis
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7/8/2017  12:20 PM
Really? I wasn't aware of his defensive ability.
If so, that would change my opinion on him and KP as a combination.
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7/8/2017  12:27 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Really? I wasn't aware of his defensive ability.
If so, that would change my opinion on him and KP as a combination.

Yup. While he shoots 45.9% FG he holds his man to 44.2 not a big difference but not bad at all for a 19 year old in his first season in the NBA. Him, KP, Warren, THJR, and Frank would strap teams for days when on their best.

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7/8/2017  12:42 PM
TPercy wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
TPercy wrote:
anrst wrote:i would love to get chriss

We already have KP I think a more feasible deal would be for Chriss to go the Cavs and warren bender and knight to NYK with KOQ and Melo to PHX

You have to take Chriss. He has the most potential out of all the moving parts. He compliments KP & Willy perfectly given his skill set to complete a 3 man rotation at PF/C. As he is more agile and & quick and can be groomed to guard stretch 4s an area KP & Willy struggle with.

I would like Chriss too but I don't think we get him and I would prefer warren to Chriss

Respect your opinion but can't agree. Chriss brings more to the table. He is on a rookie contract while Warren will get an increase next off-season. He blks shots, shoots 3s, potential to guard stretch 4s. With growing offensive potential. For Love I think we can ask for both. If Cavs want morw then Melo. Then I would want Chriss and they can take Warren.

I wouldnt touch Knight either unless they are taking Noah off our hands.

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7/8/2017  12:47 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Bender,Bledsoe,tj warren to knicks melo to Cleveland love to suns works via espn NBA trade machine

Bledsoe,frank
Timmy,Dotson
Warren,lance
Willy,bender
KP,oquin


That's a super nice rebuild

That's also a super unrealistic trade you came up with. Why do Knicks fans always make trades up with the Knicks winning and they're hardly ever fair??

Melo rumors heating up?

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