KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

ORLANDO, Fla. — “Plummet for Porter.’’

That could turn into the unofficial motto for the 2017-18 Knicks sooner than later. If you haven’t heard of him yet, that’s Missouri 6-foot-10 freshman combo forward Michael Porter Jr., expected to be the top pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

“He’s a game-changer,’’ one NBA executive told The Post. “This year was a good draft, not sure yet there was a game-changer.’’

Nobody from the Knicks organization — especially coach Jeff Hornacek — will use the word “tanking” about next season, but if it smells like Sam Hinkie’s signature “Process’’ with the 76ers, it likely is.

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

Knickoftime wrote:Even without Melo (which is a big if), Knicks will be better than a 20-25 win team.

How can you say this when you don't even know who is going to be on the team yet?

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:Even without Melo (which is a big if), Knicks will be better than a 20-25 win team.

How can you say this when you don't even know who is going to be on the team yet?

I'm assuming Porzingis & Hernangomez and a few other logical keeps will still be here.

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

ORLANDO, Fla. — “Plummet for Porter.’’

That could turn into the unofficial motto for the 2017-18 Knicks sooner than later. If you haven’t heard of him yet, that’s Missouri 6-foot-10 freshman combo forward Michael Porter Jr., expected to be the top pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

“He’s a game-changer,’’ one NBA executive told The Post. “This year was a good draft, not sure yet there was a game-changer.’’

Nobody from the Knicks organization — especially coach Jeff Hornacek — will use the word “tanking” about next season, but if it smells like Sam Hinkie’s signature “Process’’ with the 76ers, it likely is.

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

Never understood people being happy about tanking.

People said the same thing in 2015 when we tanked for KP, I thought you guys learned your lesson by now?

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

ORLANDO, Fla. — “Plummet for Porter.’’

That could turn into the unofficial motto for the 2017-18 Knicks sooner than later. If you haven’t heard of him yet, that’s Missouri 6-foot-10 freshman combo forward Michael Porter Jr., expected to be the top pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

“He’s a game-changer,’’ one NBA executive told The Post. “This year was a good draft, not sure yet there was a game-changer.’’

Nobody from the Knicks organization — especially coach Jeff Hornacek — will use the word “tanking” about next season, but if it smells like Sam Hinkie’s signature “Process’’ with the 76ers, it likely is.

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

Never understood people being happy about tanking.

People said the same thing in 2015 when we tanked for KP, I thought you guys learned your lesson by now?

No, we tanked for Okafor but we didn't get one of the first three picks. You didn't hear a single person during the season root for us to lose games in order to draft KP. Other than the Spurs for Robinson and later Duncan, what other teams succeeded (succeeded defined as winning big) by tanking?

Its not about tanking though.. its simply saying we arent going to spend or over spend to marginally increase the win total, when in doing so is actually counter productive as your draft pick is worse, and your cap situation is less favorable.

fishmike wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

ORLANDO, Fla. — “Plummet for Porter.’’

That could turn into the unofficial motto for the 2017-18 Knicks sooner than later. If you haven’t heard of him yet, that’s Missouri 6-foot-10 freshman combo forward Michael Porter Jr., expected to be the top pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

“He’s a game-changer,’’ one NBA executive told The Post. “This year was a good draft, not sure yet there was a game-changer.’’

Nobody from the Knicks organization — especially coach Jeff Hornacek — will use the word “tanking” about next season, but if it smells like Sam Hinkie’s signature “Process’’ with the 76ers, it likely is.

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

Never understood people being happy about tanking.

People said the same thing in 2015 when we tanked for KP, I thought you guys learned your lesson by now?

No, we tanked for Okafor but we didn't get one of the first three picks. You didn't hear a single person during the season root for us to lose games in order to draft KP. Other than the Spurs for Robinson and later Duncan, what other teams succeeded (succeeded defined as winning big) by tanking?

Did you follow the Cavs the year Lebron was a Sr? If Simmons or Fultz becomes a franchise player than Phili changed their future via tank.

Its not about tanking though.. its simply saying we arent going to spend or over spend to marginally increase the win total, when in doing so is actually counter productive as your draft pick is worse, and your cap situation is less favorable.

Speaking of the Lebron draft, I would rather be in the position the Pistons were in that year (similar to Boston this year). They won 50 games AND ended up with the second pick in the draft. Tanking is NOT the only way to get high draft picks. Perhaps we should advocate more for smarter trades versus "lets lose as many games as possible."

Welpee wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

Welpee wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

ORLANDO, Fla. — “Plummet for Porter.’’

That could turn into the unofficial motto for the 2017-18 Knicks sooner than later. If you haven’t heard of him yet, that’s Missouri 6-foot-10 freshman combo forward Michael Porter Jr., expected to be the top pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

“He’s a game-changer,’’ one NBA executive told The Post. “This year was a good draft, not sure yet there was a game-changer.’’

Nobody from the Knicks organization — especially coach Jeff Hornacek — will use the word “tanking” about next season, but if it smells like Sam Hinkie’s signature “Process’’ with the 76ers, it likely is.

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

Never understood people being happy about tanking.

People said the same thing in 2015 when we tanked for KP, I thought you guys learned your lesson by now?

No, we tanked for Okafor but we didn't get one of the first three picks. You didn't hear a single person during the season root for us to lose games in order to draft KP. Other than the Spurs for Robinson and later Duncan, what other teams succeeded (succeeded defined as winning big) by tanking?

Did you follow the Cavs the year Lebron was a Sr? If Simmons or Fultz becomes a franchise player than Phili changed their future via tank.

Its not about tanking though.. its simply saying we arent going to spend or over spend to marginally increase the win total, when in doing so is actually counter productive as your draft pick is worse, and your cap situation is less favorable.

So in the 32 years of the lottery you have two examples of when tanking yielded a huge payoff and Philly who you are anticipating winning big after five years of essentially tanking.

Speaking of the Lebron draft, I would rather be in the position the Pistons were in that year (similar to Boston this year). They won 50 games AND ended up with the second pick in the draft. Tanking is NOT the only way to get high draft picks. Perhaps we should advocate more for smarter trades versus "lets lose as many games as possible."

That's because there are only certain drafts that are actually worth tanking for. This coming draft appears to be one of those drafts. The guys in the top 5 all look like they will be studs in the NBA barring injury.