Caseloads wrote:Period, the end.

Dolan had it right when he said avoid the media

The Knicks are not "cursed"

A early team rebuild is painfully simple. The script literally writes itself if you stay to market convention and market value when considering personnel ( i.e. get young cost controlled guys, focus on the draft, don't sign guys in their decline phase, don't get near character risks, legal problems, injury history, never trade big for small, etc)

Hire a GM groomed for the job with room and at an age to grow and provide a chance for longevity. How freaking hard is that?
Hire a coach with the same vision and goals as said GM. How hard is that?
Stay aligned with positive market based decisions. How hard is that?

How hard would it be for Jackson to walk in, trade EVERYONE on the roster he could, then tank and tank and try to make the best decision at the draft given the time and place?

The sad thing is there are entry level INTERNS around the NBA right now who could rebuild this team at some functional level better than the circus of the last decade or so.....

The Knicks have the opportunity to be fine moving forward, the issue is simply not making this as hard as humanly possible, which they can't seem to avoid.

There were literally 50-70 front office types around the league grooming and hoping for a chance to run a team and could have done a better job than Jackson, how sad is that?

mlby1215 wrote:Look at Dolan. This guy eventually has done everything fans wanted him to do, always, more or less. This is why it is hard.

Basketball is sometimes very complex, or I can say there are many variables. as fans we mostly do not understand it, (tactics) or do not have enough information to make a good judgement (is this guy actually good or bad for the locker room?) Then we rely the media to tell us the answer.

Some smarts players or FO start to use the media for their own good. Some reporters are always negative to one guy, and always positive to another one. (for example, Phil and Melo) Sooner or later, it turns the team into a public battleground and Dolan at the end will follow the fans.

The maths is simple.

Control the media, and they would give fans some insight or ways to understand the situation. Like triangle is outdated, though they don't understand how it is outdated. It doesn't matter. No one cares. But the idea sells, because the game is changing (truth be told, when did it not? it was always changing. 80s or 90s or 2000s or now) So it must be the proof triangle is outdated.

Then you thus control the fans, and fans will be angry and retweet it and writing posts and blogs. Then opinions will be news, and news will be facts.

When you control the fans, you control the owner, because he is Dolan. He is the guy went to tv interview and said something if I do not honor the contract with Phil, how come anyone would believe me in future then 3 months later he fired him.

Media > fans > Owner

Phil is just like an old general like Eddard Stark who got killed because politics. The game has really passed him by. However, it is not the game of basketball, it is the political one.

At the end, there is a reason everything happened in Knicks. It is not about luck. It is not about Melo or Phil. Names don't mean anything. It is just a way of life.

+1000
Fans make their own bad and have no one to blame.
Same for voters.
This is American dream turned into American nightmare.

Please stop with this media thing, like suddenly there's a new issue with the media. Failure is failure and Phil Jackson was a failure even if one story was never written about him.

Also the Knicks aren't cursed, they are owned by the worst owner in professionals sports. As long as Dolan own the team, it will stay a bad team. A winning season or two maybe, but they'll be bad again soon enough.