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Five Thirty Eight Comes To Phil's Defense!
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nixluva
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6/28/2017  6:06 PM
In a VERY balanced article that talks about Phil's mistakes they also breakdown his hidden success which is yet to fully manifest itself:

The rookies were a different story. Jackson famously preferred Jahlil Okafor to Porzingis, but should be credited for taking a talented but risky prospect. The same goes for trading second-round pick swaps for Willy Hernangomez, a viable center of the future, provided we live long enough to see a future without Joakim Noah on the books, and signing Mindaugas Kuzminskas. And last week’s draft selection, 18-year-old Frank Ntilikina, is a risky, home-run type pick at a draft position in which Jackson could have taken safer players with lower ceilings.

Using the same CARMELO method as we did for the veterans, the key Knicks rookies look far better. They project to produce $203 million by 2020, but will have been paid just shy of $43 million.

Naturally, that surplus is made possible by the nature of the rookie scale, which artificially depresses pay for young players, but even going only by the real and projected value, this group of young players has been and will be worth far more than the veterans Jackson acquired. And the value isn’t all tied up in Porzingis, either — Hernangomez and Ntilikina both project to produce at a high level.

With Jackson on the way out, the expectation is that coach Jeff Hornacek will have the freedom to move away from Jackson’s much derided triangle offense. Dolan is teasing the idea of chasing former Denver Nuggets executive Masai Ujiri, who helped pants New York in the ill-advised trade for Anthony, and then again in the even more lopsided Andrea Bargnani deal a few seasons later when Ujiri was working for the Toronto Raptors. (Somewhat infamously, Ujiri nearly traded Toronto’s star point guard Kyle Lowry to New York before Dolan, hesitant to be humiliated by Ujiri once again, called off the trade at the 11th hour.)

The Knicks, who were 80-166 under Jackson, 29.5 games under their preseason Vegas win totals, are in possession of all of their future first-round draft picks for the first time in a decade.2 Things are looking up.

And so the Knicks move on to the next stage of their development, better off than they were three seasons ago. Phil Jackson did a good job — except for the parts where he didn’t. Or perhaps he did a world-historically bad job, except for a few draft picks that went his way. It was a mixed bag, full of drama and triangles, and maybe the best thing to be said about Jackson’s Knicks is that they never managed to completely bungle the future. But in this town, that’s not nothing. It’s borderline groundbreaking. Stick around long enough and even the New York Knicks might have a bright future to sell you.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/at-least-phil-jackson-didnt-leave-the-knicks-in-ruins/
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6/28/2017  7:53 PM
Silver again? Lol!
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6/28/2017  8:30 PM
Do we really want culture? We probably want special treatment. Culture says every player should go to exit meeting but nooo it would make players angry and FA would not sign for us.

Do we really want something like spur? I don't think so. We want to empower star players and hopefully they are willing to be here. The secret is that Phil broke it. He tried to do something which we think it will not work. Okay I get it. Now Phil is gone so the best FA will come here right? No? because it takes time to heal? So no first tier FA? What is the difference now?

Yeah, Melo and KP are happy now. I get it. So Melo is very happy that he is willing to drop his NTC? and KP is so happy that he will be here forever when we are rebuilding? We didn't trade KP, now we have to be sure his brother will be very happy instead. I don't know how, maybe we have to make win-now move?

There IS a reason why the team is not managed by players. Because the interest is conflicted. Players look for short term while management look for long term. IF KP hates Phil, why don't we fire him when 5 years is up? We could have fired him right before resigning KP. what is the purpose to do it now?

We do it because Melo, and Melo is win-now as hell. The young core has to be traded. Future picks have to be traded.

I am not trying to be negative. Not trading future picks get people fired. It is real and true so every Knicks GM traded them away. Why? because at the end, you are judged by 80-166. No one realize it could have much better if Phil traded away he could to find instant help.

Phil was too trustful. He thought it long term. In business world, there is no long term. It is only your term, or not.

Five Thirty Eight Comes To Phil's Defense!

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