BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:There is ZERO chance that I would ever buy Melo out and allow him to walk himself over to sign with the Cavs.

If this guy had in fact lived up to his end of the bargain after his last deal and the current situation was 100% on the Knicks ok -- I'd agree to let the guy go chase a dream because we are too screwed up to help him out.

BUT....this cat never bought into the system the staff wants to run, he played D and passed only when he felt like it and on top of everything he is a mangina.

If he will accept a trade to a reasonable destination with a reasonable return -- fine.

If he wants to play hardball (give him the S-Francis treatment and send him home to collect his paycheck for the next year or 2) and if he wants to do that -- he can spend the last few years of his basketball career on the couch in his penthouse.

Agree 100% Either play ball with a trade or accept a smaller role. Doing a buyout with a healthy man who makes 29mm $ is a disgrace for fans who ultimately pay every darn salary. Without fans basketball for pay does not exist.

Right ... "without fans".

You know where the buck stops when it comes to fans believing they're part of the organization... part of the ynamic ... that has fans they have "jobs".

When it comes to taking responsibility for the state of the team.

Then they're just fans ... they're the victims. They have no part in it at all.

It's the perfect storm for 21st century victimhood. All the good stuff is all about 'me', all the bad stuff is all about how I'm being done wrong.

"Fans" sit back and get to tell every coach and every executive and player what they do wrong, with character assassination on the table, but they take no responsibility for anything, and when someone dares criticize them like has happened the last 2 pages here, oh boy, they don't like that either ... ;-)

Sinix wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sinix wrote:Any team that is going to want Melo is going to be competing for a championship this season. And if they are competing for a championship seriously, Melo should not be picky.

Windhorst said yesterday on Lowe's podcast that if Melo goes he wants to stay east to be near his family. He said he had heard that this was a very important factor for him.

I don't buy Family Melo anymore. Not after two timing on his wife with a stripper. It's all an act with him.

Sad.

Sports is fun. You've forgotten that.

mlby1215 wrote:It is more how influential Rosen is to Phil.

Phil does not need any permission to sign Rose. Why does he ask someone to post something like that? What is the purpose? Does he need fans and media to agree with it before he can sign? If he wants it, he will do it. He does not need spin. He just does it. Like it or not. He is that kind of person.

Phil said he would like to play Frank a lot of mins but it is the coach to decide. Then suddenly he calls his friend and airs Frank is not ready? What is he doing? Is he confused? Is it possible that there are actually two adults and they have different ideas?

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

I think he would return to DadMelo if Rose is let go. There was an article awhile back about how Rose's presence killed DadMelo. Unfortunately, exit meetings are very important with the Pres. Phil was impressed with Rose's exit meeting and if you believe Charlie Rosen, Phil will try to bring Rose back.

This will be a good case study to see how much Rosen truly speaks for Phil.

Knickoftime wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:There is ZERO chance that I would ever buy Melo out and allow him to walk himself over to sign with the Cavs.

If this guy had in fact lived up to his end of the bargain after his last deal and the current situation was 100% on the Knicks ok -- I'd agree to let the guy go chase a dream because we are too screwed up to help him out.

BUT....this cat never bought into the system the staff wants to run, he played D and passed only when he felt like it and on top of everything he is a mangina.

If he will accept a trade to a reasonable destination with a reasonable return -- fine.

If he wants to play hardball (give him the S-Francis treatment and send him home to collect his paycheck for the next year or 2) and if he wants to do that -- he can spend the last few years of his basketball career on the couch in his penthouse.

Agree 100% Either play ball with a trade or accept a smaller role. Doing a buyout with a healthy man who makes 29mm $ is a disgrace for fans who ultimately pay every darn salary. Without fans basketball for pay does not exist.

Right ... "without fans".

You know where the buck stops when it comes to fans believing they're part of the organization... part of the ynamic ... that has fans they have "jobs".

When it comes to taking responsibility for the state of the team.

Then they're just fans ... they're the victims. They have no part in it at all.

It's the perfect storm for 21st century victimhood. All the good stuff is all about 'me', all the bad stuff is all about how I'm being done wrong.

"Fans" sit back and get to tell every coach and every executive and player what they do wrong, with character assassination on the table, but they take no responsibility for anything, and when someone dares criticize them like has happened the last 2 pages here, oh boy, they don't like that either ... ;-)

Don't get all dramatic. It's as simple as I'm a Knick fan and I'll root for those I feel are good for the organization or I will boo those that I feel are impeding the Knicks. I consider Melo sliding more and more into impeding therefore he gets boos.

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:There is ZERO chance that I would ever buy Melo out and allow him to walk himself over to sign with the Cavs.

If this guy had in fact lived up to his end of the bargain after his last deal and the current situation was 100% on the Knicks ok -- I'd agree to let the guy go chase a dream because we are too screwed up to help him out.

BUT....this cat never bought into the system the staff wants to run, he played D and passed only when he felt like it and on top of everything he is a mangina.

If he will accept a trade to a reasonable destination with a reasonable return -- fine.

If he wants to play hardball (give him the S-Francis treatment and send him home to collect his paycheck for the next year or 2) and if he wants to do that -- he can spend the last few years of his basketball career on the couch in his penthouse.

Agree 100% Either play ball with a trade or accept a smaller role. Doing a buyout with a healthy man who makes 29mm $ is a disgrace for fans who ultimately pay every darn salary. Without fans basketball for pay does not exist.

Right ... "without fans".

You know where the buck stops when it comes to fans believing they're part of the organization... part of the ynamic ... that has fans they have "jobs".

When it comes to taking responsibility for the state of the team.

Then they're just fans ... they're the victims. They have no part in it at all.

It's the perfect storm for 21st century victimhood. All the good stuff is all about 'me', all the bad stuff is all about how I'm being done wrong.

"Fans" sit back and get to tell every coach and every executive and player what they do wrong, with character assassination on the table, but they take no responsibility for anything, and when someone dares criticize them like has happened the last 2 pages here, oh boy, they don't like that either ... ;-)

Don't get all dramatic. It's as simple as I'm a Knick fan and I'll root for those I feel are good for the organization or I will boo those that I feel are impeding the Knicks. I consider Melo sliding more and more into impeding therefore he gets boos.

Awesome, I'm sure out of the 19.1k that are at each game, he'll hear you, and it'll hurt.

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sinix wrote:Any team that is going to want Melo is going to be competing for a championship this season. And if they are competing for a championship seriously, Melo should not be picky.

Windhorst said yesterday on Lowe's podcast that if Melo goes he wants to stay east to be near his family. He said he had heard that this was a very important factor for him.

I don't buy Family Melo anymore. Not after two timing on his wife with a stripper. It's all an act with him.

Sad.

Sports is fun. You've forgotten that.

Then why criticize anyone, ever in sports? Sports is fun. No one should ever get fired or cut ever. Good, realistic, attitude.

Getting fired or cut is active. The people in decision making roles actually DO something.

Your criticism is passive. It does nothing.

At least YOU and are having an active exchange. Unfortunately, I'm not the Knicks, so your criticisms are just doing nothing.

That said, criticism about sports is fine. You've taken to attacking him personally in a forum he won't even hear you.

That just reflects badly on you.

Dude cheats on his wife with a stripper and destroys his family and I'm supposed to turn a blind eye? It reflects on ME badly because I don't approve of what he's done. Get a grip dude. Stop trying to get personal with me.

I'm interested in a unit with Frank, Kris and Billy as the focus. That's a lot of length in those three. after that, I'm not that excited at the moment.

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sinix wrote:Any team that is going to want Melo is going to be competing for a championship this season. And if they are competing for a championship seriously, Melo should not be picky.

Windhorst said yesterday on Lowe's podcast that if Melo goes he wants to stay east to be near his family. He said he had heard that this was a very important factor for him.

I don't buy Family Melo anymore. Not after two timing on his wife with a stripper. It's all an act with him.

Sad.

Sports is fun. You've forgotten that.

Then why criticize anyone, ever in sports? Sports is fun. No one should ever get fired or cut ever. Good, realistic, attitude.

Getting fired or cut is active. The people in decision making roles actually DO something.

Your criticism is passive. It does nothing.

At least YOU and are having an active exchange. Unfortunately, I'm not the Knicks, so your criticisms are just doing nothing.

That said, criticism about sports is fine. You've taken to attacking him personally in a forum he won't even hear you.

That just reflects badly on you.

Dude cheats on his wife with a stripper and destroys his family and I'm supposed to turn a blind eye? It reflects on ME badly because I don't approve of what he's done. Get a grip dude. Stop trying to get personal with me.

What does it have to do with basketball?

You can get personal with Melo but I can't get personal with you?

This is the blatant hypocrisy so many sports fans don't even see.

EVERYONE is fair game... except you. How dare anyone criticize you?

The irony is thick.

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sinix wrote:Any team that is going to want Melo is going to be competing for a championship this season. And if they are competing for a championship seriously, Melo should not be picky.

Windhorst said yesterday on Lowe's podcast that if Melo goes he wants to stay east to be near his family. He said he had heard that this was a very important factor for him.

I don't buy Family Melo anymore. Not after two timing on his wife with a stripper. It's all an act with him.

Sad.

Sports is fun. You've forgotten that.

Then why criticize anyone, ever in sports? Sports is fun. No one should ever get fired or cut ever. Good, realistic, attitude.

Getting fired or cut is active. The people in decision making roles actually DO something.

Your criticism is passive. It does nothing.

At least YOU and are having an active exchange. Unfortunately, I'm not the Knicks, so your criticisms are just doing nothing.

That said, criticism about sports is fine. You've taken to attacking him personally in a forum he won't even hear you.

That just reflects badly on you.

Dude cheats on his wife with a stripper and destroys his family and I'm supposed to turn a blind eye? It reflects on ME badly because I don't approve of what he's done. Get a grip dude. Stop trying to get personal with me.

What does it have to do with basketball?

You can get personal with Melo but I can't get personal with you?

This is the blatant hypocrisy so many sports fans don't even see.

EVERYONE is fair game... except you. How dare anyone criticize you?

The irony is thick.

This kind of brings us back to this point about no other player ever getting so much excuses for having such little resume.

What does this have to do with basketball? Someone said family might be the reason he doesn't waive NTC.... which is bs. Name 1 other player in the NBA who is such a diva about having to be around his family. Like he doesn't have millions upon millions upon millions to be where he needs to be within hours no matter where he is in the country. The family thing is a convenient excuse and I'm calling Melo out on it after he showed us where his family values are at after choosing the stripper over them.

Melo is a Knick and getting paid near 30 mil a year. When he signed a near 30 mil a year contract, he signed up for his life to be public like this. He signed up for the scrutiny attached to a leadership role. Me as a forum guy talking to a bunch of idiot fans, not so much. It's downright weird you are trying to get personal with me.

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Sinix wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Sinix wrote:Any team that is going to want Melo is going to be competing for a championship this season. And if they are competing for a championship seriously, Melo should not be picky.

Windhorst said yesterday on Lowe's podcast that if Melo goes he wants to stay east to be near his family. He said he had heard that this was a very important factor for him.

I don't buy Family Melo anymore. Not after two timing on his wife with a stripper. It's all an act with him.

Sad.

Sports is fun. You've forgotten that.

Then why criticize anyone, ever in sports? Sports is fun. No one should ever get fired or cut ever. Good, realistic, attitude.

Getting fired or cut is active. The people in decision making roles actually DO something.

Your criticism is passive. It does nothing.

At least YOU and are having an active exchange. Unfortunately, I'm not the Knicks, so your criticisms are just doing nothing.

That said, criticism about sports is fine. You've taken to attacking him personally in a forum he won't even hear you.

That just reflects badly on you.

Are you implying that posters on a chat board should not give their opinions on the chat board?Sounds like you created a moral highground to perch on cause you don't like his content. But isn't this exactly the place to post those opinions? And while we are at it, if the intention was to get Melo's attention to the fact that he is a poor role model by his behavior, yeah, not the best forum for that. But more so, no one should be telling Melo what he can and can't do in that moral keep your hand out of the cookie jar sense. Right now you just come across as a hall monitor. Wear your sash with pride.

I like reading opinions, even if I disagree. I don't disagree here though.

TheGame wrote:There is no logical reason to buyout or sit Melo. Next year his contract will be expiring and hopefully he will have worked out his marriage issues by then. Due to the expiring nature of his deal, there will be more trade scenarios that Melo might agree to. Plus, it is not like we have some young SF that Melo is taking minutes from. The Knicks should just play nice, and I think Melo and KP will at least go through the motions and hopefully the team can win enough to stay in the playoff race. Next summer is the earliest you would buy him out if things do not work out and really I would not buy him out until after the trade deadline in 2019.

I'm not quite sure what my post had to do with you specifically, BRIGGS, but I promise not to say anything or comment anymore on anything you post or thread about. And by the way, I'm not one of these 4 or 5 tkf/dk7th Mardy Collins loving posters with four or five logins. I've only had this one for over 10 years. So not quite sure what you're ranting about, and not quite sure I want to know.

Holy crap.