He’s wrong for that. You can’t do that,” Oakley told the Daily News on Friday, two days before his debut as a player/coach with Ice Cube’s Big3 League at Barclays Center. “Not being two years in the league and you’ve been on the team two years and you won 32 games and 31 games. I mean, you don’t do that. Especially when you’re in town (at the same time the meeting was supposed to take place). You don’t do that. That’s wrong.”

“(Porzingis) should tell (Jackson) himself. That’s why you got a mouth,” Oakley said. “All they can do is trade you or keep you. But you got to realize that you have an opinion too. You can’t worry about what they will do. But all you can do is tell them to respect you. When they disrespect you, you have a right to say something to them. If you disrespect them, they have a right to say something to you. You can’t be sensitive. It’s a two-way street.”

Guys are sensitive these days. Yeah, (the team) demands a lot. They should demand a lot. They’re paying you a lot of money,” said Oakley, who called Jackson, ‘The Greatest Coach of All-time.’ “My thing is the guys should want to do something different. Learn the triangle. Learn the triangle and if doesn’t work, the coach gets fired or the president and the GM gets fired. Just try. You gotta try. Don’t say, ‘I don’t want to do this, because, whatever.’ Don’t give up on something. You got to work hard. It’s about work. These guys are just used to going out on the court and standing in one place all the time. With the triangle, you have to move.”

Legitimate emergency or not, not calling on gameday was a more serious offense, and Rose pretty much skated. Now Phil is talking about possibly giving the guy who spent most of the season freezing out KP, a new deal. On top of that, getting rid of his trainer so soon after skipping the exit meeting had the appearance of a "tit for tat". Things seem to escalate from there.

Again, KP shouldn't have blown off the exit meeting, should have returned the calls. Might have felt if Rose could get away with missing a game, he could get away with missing a meeting at the end of the season. He was wrong.

At this point I dont see any side coming out clean in this dustup. KP should fly to NYC (without his brother) and meet with Phil over dinner somewhere, and try to find some middle ground. And its time for GrandpaPhil to quietly bring KP back into the fold. Trading him isnt going to do anything good for the Knicks rep with players.

There is a difference.

I saw an interview from Kyle O'Quinn who is good friends with KP.
Kyle said KP is a pro 100%. He was a pro for 2 years in the NBA and a few years in Europe. He's not some silly 21 year old who is immature. He meant to imply that KP did this with reason and with objective.

If KP is trying to force his way (or his brother's) to get his way, how can you not react? The Knicks have been a joke for 15 years under Dolan. I don't want the players to think they can run the asylum. They can not. KP's camp is playing a very shrewd game here. They say they want to be Knicks, yet don't want to communicate with the Knicks.

This is somewhat similar to what Kobe Bryant did in 2006 I think with the Lakers. I remember something along that lines. He wasn't happy with the management and asked for a trade and basically went AWOL. But even then, he spoke with some management. He directed his frustrations to the team and told them what they needed to do. Even though he was unhappy he reported to training camp.

KP's no where near a MVP level player (and all time great) like Kobe. He's not won anything at this level. He's not even made an all-star team. I'm one of his biggest fans on this board. But this was despicable. He's got to talk to management and tell them how they can fix this and what they need to do to get on the same page. Instead he's playing a dangerous game. He's neither showing that he really wants to be here nor is he really asking for a trade. We signed a guy in Kornet who can shoot 3 pointers and block some shots at 7 feet. He is not a superstar or even maybe a starting level player. He's a D league project. But the Knicks are acting as a team that is ready to move on from KP if he doesn't get his act together. They'll probably be able to do something where they can get out of the Noah contract, trade KP and also get some players in who can help longterm.

If I'm KP I make a call to Phil and talk to him man to man. Phil Jackson is the one who drafted the kid who supported him just the same way he is Ntilikina. I've seen countless videos, even this past season where after practice Phil is seen working and talking with Kris. I don't know why Kristaps is so upset at Phil Jackson, when Phil is the one who has brought him to NY, and given him a great opportunity to become both a star off the court and a star on the court. Many teams would have rushed Kristaps. The Knicks have protected him and brought him along great, atleast in terms of minutes and expectations. Yes the Rose/Melo/KP team was a mistake and it sucked. I'm sure Phil is going to make changes there. Kris is acting like a complete ass in this, in my opinion. The coaches from Rambis, Horny all the way to Phil are in love with this kid. I don't get why he's jumped on the Melo wagon. That is not what you do, dumbass. Melo's not going to care one iotta about you once he moves on from NY or you get traded. Melo's had this crap happen to him with George Karl, Mike D'Antoni and it will happen again to him with other coaches.

Sangfroid wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:More stuff in Berman's article about how concerned Knick management is about KP. From Posting and Toasting,

Here we can see the very essence of this franchise—both in the Phil Jackson Era, and even going back to James Dolan taking control at the turn of the century—the supposed “adults” in management positions are far less interested in fixing problems than they are in assigning blame. The 21-year-old player is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! I, a 71-year-old man, need him to acknowledge how wrong he is, and how right I am! This organization will suffer until I am vindicated!

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2017/6/24/15867566/phil-jackson-reportedly-still-concerned-with-kristaps-porzingiss-long-term-viability-with-knicks

Let's just stop the noise at "wrong, wrong, wrong". Oakley is right. That's what you have a mouth for. If you're in, be in. Let your opinion count for something, as opposed to sulking and not communicating. One of the newer veterans( Melo or Noah) needed to say these things to KP. Shouldn't be left to Oak.

CrushAlot wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:More stuff in Berman's article about how concerned Knick management is about KP. From Posting and Toasting,

Here we can see the very essence of this franchise—both in the Phil Jackson Era, and even going back to James Dolan taking control at the turn of the century—the supposed “adults” in management positions are far less interested in fixing problems than they are in assigning blame. The 21-year-old player is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! I, a 71-year-old man, need him to acknowledge how wrong he is, and how right I am! This organization will suffer until I am vindicated!

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2017/6/24/15867566/phil-jackson-reportedly-still-concerned-with-kristaps-porzingiss-long-term-viability-with-knicks

Let's just stop the noise at "wrong, wrong, wrong". Oakley is right. That's what you have a mouth for. If you're in, be in. Let your opinion count for something, as opposed to sulking and not communicating. One of the newer veterans( Melo or Noah) needed to say these things to KP. Shouldn't be left to Oak.

Sure he should have gone to the meeting. Is it a reason to trade him? Bash him in the press? Put his name out there? Is this a big issue if Phil doesn't make it one? It certainly appears that Phil is going to make sure he has the last word whether it is good or bad for the franchise.

Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail.

Did phil fire Longstreet in retaliation? If so its a bit petty. At the same time when your employer pays for a coach and you don't have the courtesy to even discuss the summer plan then is that a bit also on KP as well? Nobody seems to be calling for injustice about Longstreet not being renewed either. In my book, KP is in part responsible.

As for Drose, it was handled in house and perhaps we just don't know what happened with Drose regarding his reasons. In any event Rose seems cool with coach and wants to come back.

Looking for reasons to hate on phil seems to be a fun sport for some of you. Really, the wins and losses are plenty of reason. Simple, we want to win now and stay stay the youth course. We failed to win now last year but long term it has not really been detrimental.

Oak is not PHils problem, thats a MSG thing.

nyknickzingis wrote:Love Oak. Some great quotes.

Yeah, I especially loved this one:

These guys are just used to going out on the court and standing in one place all the time. With the triangle, you have to move.”

That's why we read about how all rookies in the league are astounded by the increased speed of the NBA game. Because everyone is standing in one place all the time. I guess they stand still all the time alot slower in Euro then they do here.

Yet another genius lends his entirely credible opinion to this cluster dump of a topic. Oak really wants on the staff in some way, shape or form, huh?

I'm also guessing that KP talked to him face to face man to man about his concerns many times over before the exit meeting.