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BRIGGS
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8/19/2004  2:53 PM
this was a great comeback by the Cavs. Im not going to make any predictions about who is going to make the playoffs, BUT IMHO while I have thought otherwise I believe the Knicks are nO lock. To many teams are vastly improved.
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8/19/2004  2:59 PM
I dont think they are a lock...hell NOBODY is a lock. But I think they have a fair chance to win their division.
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8/19/2004  3:11 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:

I dont think they are a lock...hell NOBODY is a lock. But I think they have a fair chance to win their division.
The division is up in the air too. With Miami and Orlando, it's going to be tough. For the conference, I have 11 possible playoff teams (Ind, Mia, Det, Mil, Bos, Clev, Orl, NY, NJ, Phil, Tor.)
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8/19/2004  3:21 PM
Posted by deebo:
Posted by MaTT4281:

I dont think they are a lock...hell NOBODY is a lock. But I think they have a fair chance to win their division.
The division is up in the air too. With Miami and Orlando, it's going to be tough. For the conference, I have 11 possible playoff teams (Ind, Mia, Det, Mil, Bos, Clev, Orl, NY, NJ, Phil, Tor.)

I think ur forgetting the division reallignment. We are in a new division with Boston, Philly, New Jersey, and Toronto. The winner of each division is guaranteed a top 3 seed
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8/19/2004  3:25 PM
My bad. We should have the division then.
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8/19/2004  3:55 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

this was a great comeback by the Cavs. Im not going to make any predictions about who is going to make the playoffs, BUT IMHO while I have thought otherwise I believe the Knicks are nO lock. To many teams are vastly improved.
how is this a great comback, Boozer is 3x the player this kid is,lets face it losing boozer was huge and signing some hustle player with no offense whatsoever is not a comeback..
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8/19/2004  4:51 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this was a great comeback by the Cavs. Im not going to make any predictions about who is going to make the playoffs, BUT IMHO while I have thought otherwise I believe the Knicks are nO lock. To many teams are vastly improved.
how is this a great comback, Boozer is 3x the player this kid is,lets face it losing boozer was huge and signing some hustle player with no offense whatsoever is not a comeback..

The Cavs have built a team. Big Z, Gooden, Varajao (a very nice prospect), James, Wagner, McInnis, etc... they have a nice core to build upon. They have a shot at the #4 seed, without question.
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8/19/2004  5:02 PM
Posted by Solace:

[They have a shot at the #4 seed, without question.

The #4 seed will most likely go to whichever team dosen't win the Central, either Detroit or Indy
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8/19/2004  5:05 PM
Posted by CTKnicksfan:
Posted by Solace:

[They have a shot at the #4 seed, without question.

The #4 seed will most likely go to whichever team dosen't win the Central, either Detroit or Indy

Agggh, caught me on a technicality, you sneaky b*******. Let me rephrase: they have a shot at the fourth best record in the east. Better?
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8/19/2004  5:51 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:

this was a great comeback by the Cavs. Im not going to make any predictions about who is going to make the playoffs, BUT IMHO while I have thought otherwise I believe the Knicks are nO lock. To many teams are vastly improved.
how is this a great comback, Boozer is 3x the player this kid is,lets face it losing boozer was huge and signing some hustle player with no offense whatsoever is not a comeback..

The Cavs have built a team. Big Z, Gooden, Varajao (a very nice prospect), James, Wagner, McInnis, etc... they have a nice core to build upon. They have a shot at the #4 seed, without question.
I'd rather have Boozer, but they recovered fairly decently from their mess up with him
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8/19/2004  11:16 PM
you don't lose your best rebounder and possibly your best bigman and say that you're vastly improved. paxson did a good recovery job but the cavs are NOT improved by losing boozer. they'll go only as far as lebron improves this year - that's it.
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Posted by djsunyc:

you don't lose your best rebounder and possibly your best bigman and say that you're vastly improved. paxson did a good recovery job but the cavs are NOT improved by losing boozer. they'll go only as far as lebron improves this year - that's it.

exactly my point and really has anyone seen this varejo kid play? It's funny the knicks get a proven talent like marbury and crawford and we are a 8th seed, the cavs lose their second best player on that team and replace him with Drew gooden and a kid who no one has seen play and they are vastly improved... I swear sometimes the thinking on this board..................
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8/20/2004  1:57 AM
I agree with all of y'all who think Boozer is a huge loss. As they've mentioned in the Olympics, he's been a role player (2nd or 3rd option) since his days @ Duke, and I think it has prepared him well for the NBA. I think the fact that their teams are always loaded with NBA caliber talent helps--- they learn how to play a team game.

Gooden was great in the playoffs vs Big Ben two years ago--- who knows what happened to his game and his confidence this past season.

In all, I think a year of experience will do a lot of good for Lebron. With Eric Snow handling the PG efficiently, it should free him up for greater things. They're almost definitely going to be a .500+ team... how good? Well, the more I look at Indiana, I wonder how they managed to have such a fantastic record behind two low FG% scorers (O'Neal/Artest)...
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8/20/2004  1:59 AM
BTW, I won't put too much clout in VJ--- he's pulled out of a number of drafts in the past, and even now, didn't manage to get into the first round.

Also, it's getting closer to official--- Dajuan Wagner looks like he might be a bust. This summer, his first "full" summer league, he failed to impress.
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