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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
I only posted part of the article. There's much more to the article and in addition there are charts and videos: https://theringer.com/2017-nba-draft-malik-monk-kentucky-wildcats-f074a0b238f0
Malik Monk’s Other Dimensions May Be Hiding in Plain Sight |
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
nixluva wrote:PHUCK the jokes and personal attacks! Guys see what they want and have Blind spots for what is right in front of them! The article did touch on different aspects of Monk's game.Nix, I thought you posted the whole article. I didn't read your intro. I apologize. I know you are passionate and have facts to back up your points.Monk was excellent in the pick-and-roll this season, in an admittedly small sample size of 66 possessions. When you include the shots that came from his passes, he generated 1.015 points per possession, putting him in the 85th percentile of NCAA players. Defenses have a tough time guarding Monk in the two-man game because of how quickly he can rise and fire off the dribble. You can’t go under the screen on Monk, and dropping back even a little is an invitation for him to shoot I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30259 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
Welpee wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Curry only played the point his junior season and was still more of a shooting guard than a passing guard, so I'm not sure how much vision he displayed jacking up 20 shots a game at Davidson. Bob Knight also thought Calbert Cheaney was the real deal.Welpee wrote:I've decided Monk or Ntilkina are the two guys I would be OK with out of this draft given our draft position. I want no part of Dennis Smith. Too many red flags for me. Even if he has Westbrook-like talent he has team killer written all over him from what I've read. Of course there were question marks. It wasnt just Bob Knight saying that Curry was going to be able to translate into a PG. He showed why and the film stood out more so then Knights words. Curry was never going to be Steve Nash in terms of passing. But he displayed enough to show he can play PG in this league which turned out to be correct. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:PHUCK the jokes and personal attacks! Guys see what they want and have Blind spots for what is right in front of them! The article did touch on different aspects of Monk's game.Nix, I thought you posted the whole article. I didn't read your intro. I apologize. I know you are passionate and have facts to back up your points.Monk was excellent in the pick-and-roll this season, in an admittedly small sample size of 66 possessions. When you include the shots that came from his passes, he generated 1.015 points per possession, putting him in the 85th percentile of NCAA players. Defenses have a tough time guarding Monk in the two-man game because of how quickly he can rise and fire off the dribble. You can’t go under the screen on Monk, and dropping back even a little is an invitation for him to shoot Sorry I got heated. I just get tired of some of Cliche Nix Attacks trying to make me sound irrational. I'm not an idiot and after a while it gets beyond annoying to read jokes suggesting I am. |
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technomaster
Posts: 23353 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2003 Member: #426 USA |
How does he compare to some of his predecessors at UK - last year's Jamal Murray (#7 overall pick)?
Or perhaps someone like Brandon Knight - who I'd imagine is expendable in Phoenix? “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
technomaster wrote:How does he compare to some of his predecessors at UK - last year's Jamal Murray (#7 overall pick)? IMO Monk compares with those guys. He's still in need of development and the role Monk is put in will have an impact. Monk is already Triangle ready in that he's used to giving up the Ball EARLY and going into motion. He looks like a great fit. |
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
newyorknewyork wrote:We have to careful about revisionist history. When players become great in the NBA we like to think the consensus was most saw it from day one and when a guy's a bust people claim they knew that too. Steph was the third point guard selected at #7. Minnesota needing a point guard devoted picks #5 and #6 to filling that need and passed twice on Steph.Welpee wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Curry only played the point his junior season and was still more of a shooting guard than a passing guard, so I'm not sure how much vision he displayed jacking up 20 shots a game at Davidson. Bob Knight also thought Calbert Cheaney was the real deal.Welpee wrote:I've decided Monk or Ntilkina are the two guys I would be OK with out of this draft given our draft position. I want no part of Dennis Smith. Too many red flags for me. Even if he has Westbrook-like talent he has team killer written all over him from what I've read. But my main point is there were just as many questions about Steph pre-draft as there appears to be with Monk. I initially was against considering Monk because of his size but the more I read up on him and think about other players who either overcame not being the ideal height for their position or having to play a different role in the league, I'm willing to co-sign on selecting him. If you're not on board with Monk, who do you want to see the Knicks select? |
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
nixluva wrote:nobody is attacking you... but a little poke is fun now and thenCrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:PHUCK the jokes and personal attacks! Guys see what they want and have Blind spots for what is right in front of them! The article did touch on different aspects of Monk's game.Nix, I thought you posted the whole article. I didn't read your intro. I apologize. I know you are passionate and have facts to back up your points.Monk was excellent in the pick-and-roll this season, in an admittedly small sample size of 66 possessions. When you include the shots that came from his passes, he generated 1.015 points per possession, putting him in the 85th percentile of NCAA players. Defenses have a tough time guarding Monk in the two-man game because of how quickly he can rise and fire off the dribble. You can’t go under the screen on Monk, and dropping back even a little is an invitation for him to shoot I would suggest decaf though... damn I stick by what I say though... I like Monk as a prospect, but there is a ton he hasn't show and was a pretty average defender in college with Fox taking the tougher guard pretty much every time. Now I do think Monk as the lowest bust potential. He's gonna be a useful rotation guy, but he certainly *appears* to lack the 2-way upside of a guy like Ntilikina with great hops AND a 7 foot plus wingspan. We will see who Phil likes. Monk is prob the most sure thing to note bust, but do you see him shutting anyone down in the NBA? Anyone? Thats part of it... at least if we are talking building block guys. I would like a building block guy vs. a role player. Now there is more risk in that as well... so I do ack the pendulum swings both ways "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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