12 beg scenario--hoping we can get that 2nd 1st rd round pick from Detoit in a Portland NY Detroit swap and take the guy who i think is a top 5 player and replaces KOQ and Noah Jarrett Allen

44 Looking for droppers here--I think Frank Jackson got a promise from Utah at 30 but if im taking Frank Im going to go older here--maybe even see if I can move up a notch and take Frank Mason with Josh Hart as my back up

58 Depending on getting that 2nd 1--looking to see who falls but I still like one of Burton Meeks or Dorsey

Frank also is an international, fitting into the group we have in NY.

At this point, I'm even fine with sending Melo to a playoff team who has capspace to take the contract, so long as they give back 2 draft picks as well. Just re-build this coming year. Even if the lineup on opening day is Willy/KP/Kuz/Baker/Ntilikina, I can live with that. Bring vets off the bench like Noah, O'Quinn, Thomas, Lee and sign a vet backup PG.

BRIGGS wrote:8 Im sticking with Frank N at 8 from here to the draft. I think the potential for him to grow another 2-3 inches is highly possible--which would make him a 6-7 6-8 combo guard that looks a lot like a version of Jamal Crawford but with D.

12 beg scenario--hoping we can get that 2nd 1st rd round pick from Detoit in a Portland NY Detroit swap and take the guy who i think is a top 5 player and replaces KOQ and Noah Jarrett Allen

44 Looking for droppers here--I think Frank Jackson got a promise from Utah at 30 but if im taking Frank Im going to go older here--maybe even see if I can move up a notch and take Frank Mason with Josh Hart as my back up

58 Depending on getting that 2nd 1--looking to see who falls but I still like one of Burton Meeks or Dorsey

I agree here. Nicky and Allen would be a monster coup. If Isaac and Nicky are both there at 8, I think you have to consider Isaac though. Not sure I mind if Nicky stays in France a year or two more to get his big boy pants.

This is another clear season where Phil's desire to start Free Agency prior to the draft makes sense for the Knicks. Unfortunately, he can't.

With the 44 and 58, I think you have to start thinking about stashes. There are going to be so many young players that you will be wasting good picks. We have 11 contracts and Justin Holiday and D Rose to consider. So, I can certainly pick two more players in the second round and roster them. But that leaves virtually no room for free agency.

So Briggs, assume that you must pick one foreign player with the 44 or 58 and stash them... who do you pick?

EwingsGlass wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:8 Im sticking with Frank N at 8 from here to the draft. I think the potential for him to grow another 2-3 inches is highly possible--which would make him a 6-7 6-8 combo guard that looks a lot like a version of Jamal Crawford but with D.

12 beg scenario--hoping we can get that 2nd 1st rd round pick from Detoit in a Portland NY Detroit swap and take the guy who i think is a top 5 player and replaces KOQ and Noah Jarrett Allen

44 Looking for droppers here--I think Frank Jackson got a promise from Utah at 30 but if im taking Frank Im going to go older here--maybe even see if I can move up a notch and take Frank Mason with Josh Hart as my back up

58 Depending on getting that 2nd 1--looking to see who falls but I still like one of Burton Meeks or Dorsey

I agree here. Nicky and Allen would be a monster coup. If Isaac and Nicky are both there at 8, I think you have to consider Isaac though. Not sure I mind if Nicky stays in France a year or two more to get his big boy pants.

This is another clear season where Phil's desire to start Free Agency prior to the draft makes sense for the Knicks. Unfortunately, he can't.

With the 44 and 58, I think you have to start thinking about stashes. There are going to be so many young players that you will be wasting good picks. We have 11 contracts and Justin Holiday and D Rose to consider. So, I can certainly pick two more players in the second round and roster them. But that leaves virtually no room for free agency.

So Briggs, assume that you must pick one foreign player with the 44 or 58 and stash them... who do you pick?

I'd take the 7-1 lativiafor euros ice seen. Jeanne looks like he's out

BRIGGS wrote:8 Im sticking with Frank N at 8 from here to the draft. I think the potential for him to grow another 2-3 inches is highly possible--which would make him a 6-7 6-8 combo guard that looks a lot like a version of Jamal Crawford but with D.

12 beg scenario--hoping we can get that 2nd 1st rd round pick from Detoit in a Portland NY Detroit swap and take the guy who i think is a top 5 player and replaces KOQ and Noah Jarrett Allen

44 Looking for droppers here--I think Frank Jackson got a promise from Utah at 30 but if im taking Frank Im going to go older here--maybe even see if I can move up a notch and take Frank Mason with Josh Hart as my back up

58 Depending on getting that 2nd 1--looking to see who falls but I still like one of Burton Meeks or Dorsey

I thought you wanted Jarrett Allen or Frank Jackson? Who do you think is the real bpa?

reub wrote:I think that Orlando is the biggest threat to take Frank. If they take Frank and Minny takes Isaac all the freak wingspans are gone. We'd probably take DSJ at that point, which might not be bad.

8 is a nice spot for Phil....And I said that same thing last year. 8 is at the bottom part of the top 8 safe picks. So all Phil has to do is pick whoever drops. The problem I see if this draft is more than just the top 8.....I think it's a top 10 draft.

Isaac, Ntilikina, DSJ, Monk......At least two of these guys will be available....

I still think Isaac is the best pick. The NBA is dominated by players at his position. We need a young defensive 2 way player, who can play the forward position......Especially with Melos one foot out the door. This also gives Phil more leverage to trade Melo, even if he doesn't get much in return....And make sure he at least gets a veteran PG.....and posibly a PG later in the draft. But your not going to get a young two way player like Isaac in free agency or later in the draft. blocks, rebounds, inside outside game, defense......He brings too much to the table. It will be a blessing if he's available at 8.