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martin
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6/1/2017  12:10 PM
I guess we knew this but man it's hard to watch.

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6/1/2017  12:14 PM
Whether he did it on purpose or just lack court awareness. I think it is the latter, but it was a contract year so numbers have to look good.
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6/1/2017  12:26 PM
Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.
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6/1/2017  12:28 PM
YUP! I complained all year about the lack of chemistry between Rose and KP! Rose talked a big game before the season about how he was gonna be dishing to KP but then he just Froze KP out! I asked where are all the Rose to KP highlights???

Jrue passed to Davis 16.8 times for 6.7 FGA's and 2.8 Assists.
Rose passed to KP 10.0 times for 2.8 FGA's and 1.1 Assists.
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6/1/2017  12:50 PM
Vmart wrote:Whether he did it on purpose or just lack court awareness. I think it is the latter, but it was a contract year so numbers have to look good.

If he passes we win... the money would take care of itself. This is what losers don't understand. Winners get it

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6/1/2017  1:02 PM
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

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6/1/2017  1:25 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.
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6/1/2017  2:39 PM
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.

it's probably a combination of a lot of things
1)He's a scoring point guard
2)never played with KP
3)contract year
4)new to the triangle
5)he was brought here bcause of his ability to penetrate and finish
6)kp never demands the ball
7)was the coaching staff drilling him about those miss opportunities
8)pau and noah rolled to the basket, KP stands at the 3 point line, so familiarity played a role as well

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6/1/2017  2:48 PM
how do you so frequently not see the 7'3" guy -- and oh yeah he's the white dude too

this has been my theory why KP is pissed with team; He doesn't like Phil criticizing Melo for being sticky when the pg is perhaps worse

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6/1/2017  3:58 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.

it's probably a combination of a lot of things
1)He's a scoring point guard
2)never played with KP
3)contract year
4)new to the triangle
5)he was brought here bcause of his ability to penetrate and finish
6)kp never demands the ball
7)was the coaching staff drilling him about those miss opportunities
8)pau and noah rolled to the basket, KP stands at the 3 point line, so familiarity played a role as well

Rose had no problem finding Melo from their first game together, often while being covered. Didn't expect them to have instant chemistry, but Rose was going well beyond getting too caught up in the game to notice KP.

Rose said before the season started that he wanted to get paid, was very upfront about it. Rose then went about chasing the stats he thought would get him there. Rose is already loaded, he wasn't playing for his first big deal. Thats why I didnt want him here, Rose had other ambitions.

Rose was talking about getting paid while he was in street clothes, and some of his Bulls teammates were in the hospital from playoff injuries. Too mercenary to trust to run the point.
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6/1/2017  4:51 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.

it's probably a combination of a lot of things
1)He's a scoring point guard
2)never played with KP
3)contract year
4)new to the triangle
5)he was brought here bcause of his ability to penetrate and finish
6)kp never demands the ball
7)was the coaching staff drilling him about those miss opportunities
8)pau and noah rolled to the basket, KP stands at the 3 point line, so familiarity played a role as well

ALL OF THIS IS BULLSHYTE!!! You simply can't be in the league this long and not know how to hit a 7-3 MF who's wide open!!! Just no excuses for Rose's lack of passing to KP in scoring position.
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6/1/2017  5:33 PM
No one saw this coming at all. I am very surprised by this. This is not the Rose I knew from Chicago. Oh Well I can't wait for the Rubio/Rose trade to come through so the knicks can get a real point guard.
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6/1/2017  10:23 PM
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.

it's probably a combination of a lot of things
1)He's a scoring point guard
2)never played with KP
3)contract year
4)new to the triangle
5)he was brought here bcause of his ability to penetrate and finish
6)kp never demands the ball
7)was the coaching staff drilling him about those miss opportunities
8)pau and noah rolled to the basket, KP stands at the 3 point line, so familiarity played a role as well

ALL OF THIS IS BULLSHYTE!!! You simply can't be in the league this long and not know how to hit a 7-3 MF who's wide open!!! Just no excuses for Rose's lack of passing to KP in scoring position.

Agree completely. But KPs lack of movement without the ball is worrisome. He is always parked in the corner for a 3.

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6/1/2017  10:50 PM
I just hope no one digs up the keep Rose not Melo threads and that doesn't mean that the knicks should keep Melo but the comments about Rose was well, um pretty rosie if I recall.
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6/1/2017  11:24 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:Rose's lack of court awareness was on the scouting report since he entered the league. Management traded for him knowing this so it shouldn't surprise anyone when Rose plays like....Rose.

exactly, and there's still mutual interest, so there maybe a part 2

Rose used to dish more so this is BULLSHYTE!!! 2015 had 5.0 FGA's to Pau and 2.9 to Butler. 2016 had 3.8 FGA's to Pau and 3.4 to Butler! While not great still better than with KP. If Rose actually did what he said he would there's no reason he couldn't have increased his dishes this year. Wasn't about court vision! SELFISH.

it's probably a combination of a lot of things
1)He's a scoring point guard
2)never played with KP
3)contract year
4)new to the triangle
5)he was brought here bcause of his ability to penetrate and finish
6)kp never demands the ball
7)was the coaching staff drilling him about those miss opportunities
8)pau and noah rolled to the basket, KP stands at the 3 point line, so familiarity played a role as well

ALL OF THIS IS BULLSHYTE!!! You simply can't be in the league this long and not know how to hit a 7-3 MF who's wide open!!! Just no excuses for Rose's lack of passing to KP in scoring position.

Agree completely. But KPs lack of movement without the ball is worrisome. He is always parked in the corner for a 3.

KP was fine! Spotting up spaces the floor and so often KP was WIDE OPEN but no pass!
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6/1/2017  11:43 PM
I thought all year Rose was hurting KP's development.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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