Posted by Andrew:

Posted by Kwazimodal:

I agree with those who think that Isiah is just trying to keep the Knicks in the headlines.It wont get us Carter but trying to market the Knicks around the league as a "player" isnt a bad idea.Better that then Layden hiding from the press in his fortress of ineptitude.

I sort of disagree....I think the NY Post is trying to keep Carter in the headlines. Isiah cannot comment on Carter at all. The only thing keeping this story going is the papers constantly asking Isiah about Vince.

You are right Andrew that the press makes alot of this stuff up but Isiah plays along and mentions in the article that he can be very creative and he pretty much has carte blanche to go out and make deals,so in not flat out refuting the rumours he leaves the door open which feeds the press's appetite even more for stories about players like Carter and keeps the Knicks in the headlines.The only rumour he has shut down is any mention of marbury in a trade.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by fishmike:

no.. lots of people dont like Isiah and even more still hate the Knicks. Heck, one of the guys on ESPN radio yesterday said the Knicks wouldnt even be .500

That's nice but Benigno and those callers said they liked what Isiah has done with the Knicks so far but thought he was being ridiculous to suggest that things are so much better here that top players are considering coming here for a lot less than market value.

Ok... so this gets an even bigger WHO CARES. So what your point is all these people your quoting like what he's done w/ the team but he said something dumb?

Imagine caring... I dont follow the Knicks to see what the GM says, I follow them to see what the GM puts on the floor. So far we are younger, more explosive and more future oriented.

As dumb as Layden was I never cared about his stupid sayings either, I cared that our win now team featured KVH, Eisley, McDyess and KT as starters.

This is good publicity for the NYK. With names like Carter, Dampier, Crawford, and A. Walker in the same sentence as NYK this may lure other players to have interest in the organization. Like many players have said, it's good to be wanted by one of the greatest 50 players of all time. Making it public will not hurt us at all.

its dumb until it happens.

Briggs said it best once... Isiah is a used car salesman, and there he's just spouting. He's just trying to keep a buzz about MSG and the Knicks.

I tend to think Damps was serious about possibly signing here for the MLE- it might have been a last option for him.

If Dallas didn't come through and there were no other S&T options, he would have had only the MLE available to him. That he would have picked NY over other MLE options says something.

Sure, its not much- but at least other teams players are thinking- wow, Isiah is doing some nice things there.

better than Layden.

before Dal stepped in I think we had a good shot at Dampier. He obviously didnt want the $$ Atlanta was going to give him which left us or wait for a team to step up with a big offer. Dallas gave up a lot but were in position to do so.

Good for them.

Heh... lots of players "consider" the MLE... then all of their family and friends tell them, "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?!?!"... then they think, "geez, maybe *insert team here* has a better chance & can pay me the big bucks"...

Dallas, with superstar big man Dirk Nowitzki, will make it easy for Dampier to concentrate on the things he's good at and give him the financial security he needs. With the Knicks, he'd have had to have filled the role of, "the best Knicks center since Patrick Ewing"... and those are the proverbial big shoes he'd have to fill (nevermind the fact that Ewing only wore size 12's)...

Funny thing about everything is that 1) Vince has never publicly stated a preference to go to NY. 2) No one in the Knicks organization has publically stated a desire to get Carter. He's a signed player--- and if either party mentions to the media a mutual interest, they'd be penalized for tampering...

To all the fans who want to see Carter in a Knick Unis, you only want him here because of high-lights. This dude has yet to prove that he can play team ball, until then, he is and will always be a show-boat.

TT is far better than Vince Carter in our system for the moment. #1 he and coach Wilkens are not on the same page. He disrespected Lenny and even got him fired. TT is a new comer and still has an excellent chance at becoming greater than showboat Carter. Carter's injuries will strongly diminishe his effectiveness as an athlete. However, I wouldn't be objective from trading Houston for Carter.

Posted by Panos:

Posted by diderotn:

To all the fans who want to see Carter in a Knick Unis, you only want him here because of high-lights. This dude has yet to prove that he can play team ball, until then, he is and will always be a show-boat.

I love this! This from a guy who loves TT!
Carter has 2.5 times the assists and just as many rebounds
even tho he's 4 inches shorter. And he plays better defense.
That PLUS 8 points more a game!


[Edited by - panos on 08/20/2004 16:07:52]

Posted by Panos:

Posted by diderotn:

TT is far better than Vince Carter in our system for the moment. #1 he and coach Wilkens are not on the same page. He disrespected Lenny and even got him fired. TT is a new comer and still has an excellent chance at becoming greater than showboat Carter. Carter's injuries will strongly diminishe his effectiveness as an athlete. However, I wouldn't be objective from trading Houston for Carter.

Posted by Panos:

Posted by diderotn:

To all the fans who want to see Carter in a Knick Unis, you only want him here because of high-lights. This dude has yet to prove that he can play team ball, until then, he is and will always be a show-boat.

I love this! This from a guy who loves TT!
Carter has 2.5 times the assists and just as many rebounds
even tho he's 4 inches shorter. And he plays better defense.
That PLUS 8 points more a game!


[Edited by - panos on 08/20/2004 16:07:52]

Are you saying you wouldn't trade TT for VC straight up
ignoring any financial trade restrictions?

We don't need THREE players on this team who dominate the ball on offense. It's enough of a challenge with two (Marbury and Crawford). The only reason I'd want Carter is to trade him

Posted by rojasmas:

I agree wholeheartedly about not needing 3 guys who dominate the ball. Carter just doesn't fit, as Antoine Walker didn't fit. So give up the pipedream.

My question was would you rather have TT or VC.
If you say TT, I have to say your crazy.