BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exception

PHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen Brown

SAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pick

NYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)

The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.

Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).

Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.

We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.

NardDogNation wrote:Let's trade KP, LMFAO. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of people have made great points concerning KP's long-term health. The reality is that 7'fters do not have a great track record of health in this league, so putting the burden of an inept franchise squarely on the shoulders of one is not a good idea. That being said, here is this four team trade:

BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exception

PHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen Brown

SAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pick

NYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)

The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.

Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).

Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.

We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.

Proposed this then the xbox froze on u right!!!!

EnySpree wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.

I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.

Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.

Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that

Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.

Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.

EnySpree wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.

I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.

dacash wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dacash wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Judging from the last couple of months, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil offers to trade KP for the number one pick, as the centerpiece of a deal.

I dunno about you... I just care about the Knicks. If we traded KP and the return was good sand it made sense going forward? I would be good with it. I'm a knick fan not a player fan. KP hadn't done anything yet to warrant any blind loyalty. We need to get better as a team. That's it.

Blind loyalty to Phil is more of a problem for the Knicks than blind loyalty to KP.

Rebuilding the team doesn't mean there's loyalty to Phil. We can't fire him in the middle of a rebuild. We need stability right now. That's all there is to that

Gutting the roster every season to find Triangle ready players isn't rebuilding. Thats why some of us thought that Rose and Noah were a step backwards, not forwards. The blind loyalty is discounting the fact that mgmt has not provided our best draft pick since Mark Jackson with a stable environment to learn the game, expand his game. Thats why I get frustrated to hear the same defense of some of Phil's more questionable moves after 3 years. "We're rebuilding". Its like that store on 5th avenue that's always going out of business.

Im all for patience and rebuilding, but I want to actually see it in practice. This means not trading our best draft pick in decades to start all over again from scratch.

i think in past three years we were trying to win now with melo and that hasnt gone well at all, now they are trying to get rid of melo and build around kp hopefully that goes better, their drafting has gone better than their free agency

I don't think you are trying to win now if you have 6 rookies on your roster and 5 were not drafted. I also think the Noah signing was because Phil sees himself as simpatico with Noah and not that Noah was brought in to build around Melo. The Knicks had 8 undrafted players and two second rounders on a fifteen man roster. That means there is a huge talent deficit. That isn't a team that has much of a shot at competing for anything.

you dont think rose and clee and noah were brought here more for melo than kp?

NardDogNation wrote:Let's trade KP, LMFAO. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of people have made great points concerning KP's long-term health. The reality is that 7'fters do not have a great track record of health in this league, so putting the burden of an inept franchise squarely on the shoulders of one is not a good idea. That being said, here is this four team trade:

BOS Trade: No.1 overall pick, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier and a 2018 pick swap (BKN pick; to NYK)
BOS Receive Kristaps Porzingis, 44th pick, 58th pick, a $2 million trade exception

PHI Trade: 3rd overall pick, 36th pick and 39th
PHI Receive: no.8 overall pick (Malik Monk), 44th pick, 58th pick and Jaylen Brown

SAC Trade: 5th and 10th pick
SAC Receive: no.1 overall pick, 36th pick and 39th pick

NYK Trade: Kristaps Porzingis
NYK Receive: Terry Rozier, 3rd pick (Josh Jackson), 5th pick (Jonathan Isaac) and 10th pick (Frank Ntilikina), with control of a 2018 BKN pick swap (via BOS)

The Celtics do it because they get a young star player that they can build their franchise around. KP fits a position of need for the Celtics, which is a huge plus and also offers much needed height on both ends of the floor. Save Giannias Antetokounmpo or Draymond Green, I don't think there is a better fit at the 4-5 spot with KP than Al Horford and see nothing but good things with that pairing.

Sixers do it to accelerate their rebuilding process with two swingmen that fit a position of need for them. The no.3 pick figures to be huge in this draft but with the depth still available at the 8 spot and Jaylen Brown's talents, I think they'd be inclined to roll-the-dice, especially since Bryan Colangelo has had a horrible track record recently in the draft (aka the man that gave us Andrea Bargnani with a no.1 overall pick).

Kings do the deal because they are stupid....and need the flare that comes with having a no.1 overall pick. A Markelle Fultz might not be a superstar-in-the-making but I think he is the only player (other than Tatum) who seems skilled enough to be a consummate NBA starter for years to come, even if they don't improve. That quality should make the pick that much more appealing to the Kings who routinely destroy blue chip talent.

We do the deal to hedge on the potential health risks of KP and to accelerate our own rebuilding process. With KP, goes any identity we may have developed as a franchise but you'd have to figure that at least one of those three lottery picks would work at. And as I suggested earlier, I'd go with Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac and Frank Ntilikina with those picks. I think I'd even try to trade Willy Hernangomez to the Nuggets for their 13th pick, to get an all-time record of 4 lottery picks in one draft. I'd gamble on slme high-risk/high-reward player like Terrence Ferguson or Frank Jackson at this spot; plus have the added benefit of uniting the Hernangomez brothers.

So we should be afraid Kristaps to get injured and having a short NBA run or became a bust but Boston should 100% believe that KP is their future franchise player.
May be Boston should trade IT for KP because IT is short but KP is tall?
KP is known commodity with unlimited potential.
No NBA club in their right mind will trade this kind of player.
Consequences of this becoming a mistake are much bigger that benefits of success.
This called gambling with high stakes.