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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
5/18/2017 10:47 AM LAST EDITED: 5/18/2017 10:56 AM
Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him.
As much as I like Nitty. I can't pass Diallo up to much potential 44.5 vertical almost 7' wing span. He is the next no doubt in my mind. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/18/2017 11:29 AM LAST EDITED: 5/18/2017 11:31 AM
Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. I dont see that. If you use you pick "8" to move down and get a few picks--thats the ticket. Instead of thinking who do we get for pick 8--which is possible---whats the most value I can get for pick 8. If Portland wants a certain player --maybe they give up 15-20-26 for 8. RIP Crushalot😞
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33831 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
5/18/2017 11:38 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. I agree with trading down... historically speaking the 8th pick doesn't amount to much. It makes sense when you think about it. Basically you are fighting for the lotto scraps. I think we'll get a good player but nothing great. So I would rather end up with two slightly-less-good-but-still-good players. But sometimes you end up with a better player, because you don't end up drafting he guy that fell to 8th, you draft players that you think are going to be good. Donovon Mitchell and Justin Jackson make a ton of sense for this team. But I would hate drafting either at 8 DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
5/18/2017 11:58 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. I'm not a fan of trading down. Remember the KNicks once had three first round picks and not one made it big. The scouting was terrible back then too but that can happen again. I really believe that Diallo is worth the 8th pick. The Knicks are picking for the future, remember Kobe, T-Mac, LeBron were straight out of HS I bet Pat Riley is salivating at picking this kid. Lets hope the Knicks test him out and do their due diligence. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/18/2017 1:26 PM
Vmart wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. If Im staying at 8 I would personally take Frank Jackson and every time I look at video it reaffirms my belief that hes the best pick at 8. He can control the game from 3 spots and has upside on defense. Hes a top 3 athlete in this class--was co MVP of the McD game (with all of the stars in the lottery in the same game) won the dunk contest--was a dominant player in HS avg 30 points and controlling the game from 30 feet with a 45% 3 point shot. This is like Booker from Kentucky--simply hidden among 7-8 nba players and vets. I need to see some improvement in some ares but the bones are all there. RIP Crushalot😞
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LivingLegend
Posts: 23966 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
5/18/2017 1:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. Both Fran/Penn referred to F-Jackson as a 1-trick pony during the combine and both noted that knock on him was needs to learn to play with his teammates. I like his explosiveness off the dribble -- but not taking him at 8. |
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LivingLegend
Posts: 23966 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
5/18/2017 1:47 PM
In terms of a trade down it would depend on whether a player the Knicks really like (maybe 2nd on their board of remaining players) is picked further down in the draft.
Lets say we pick Frankie at #8 (#1 on our board at 8) but Nuggets covet Frankie as a PG fit to run with Jokic/Murray & a replacement PG for Mudiay. Lets say Nuggets pick OG Anuoby at #13 (but he happens to be #2 on our board when we picked at #8). Nuggets offer us #13 (Anuoby), J-Hernangomez, Mudiay in an effort to come up and get a player they want. Knicks weigh the offer and say yes/no. Not saying that is a reasonable offer but trade down is determined after picks are made. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/18/2017 2:05 PM
LivingLegend wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. One trick pony? The guy can score from all 3 levels. If anyone actually watched the combine you saw quality pg play. I like Frank Jackson Dorsey and Bell-- let's see if I'm talking out of my arse. most years I am not. RIP Crushalot😞
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37761 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/18/2017 2:20 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Vmart wrote:Take Diallo and call it a day. This needs to be the Knicks pick. When your picking 8 there is no to high and there is no to low you take the best available. This kid is it. He is young enough to be molded to what you want. His handle is tight and he see the floor very well. I said the game looks like it is moving slo mo for him. Man... you're right about the 8th pick. From DraftX: 8 Highest PER 20.2 Brandan Wright 17.4 Andre Miller 16.6 Rudy Gay 16.2 Jordan Hill 15.6 Chris Wilcox #8 Median PER 12.5 Al-Farouq Aminu 12.4 Adonal Foyle 12.3 Marquese Chriss 12.0 Terrence Ross 11.6 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Don't expect anyone we draft to have an immediate impact out I the gate. Butere's some hope
ALL STARS: Vin Baker x4 Detlef Schrempf x3 Tom Chambers x4 Andrew Toney x2 Calvin Natt x1 Jack Sikma x7 Robert Parish x9 Campy Russell x1 Geoff Petrie x2 Sam Jones x5 - Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Zebo13
Posts: 20376 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/31/2017 Member: #6434 USA |
5/18/2017 2:37 PM
I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson.
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29869 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
5/18/2017 3:30 PM
Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. Go for the dude with the highest potential at 8. Then make moves for quality fits like Jackson and Hart. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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reub
Posts: 21836 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2016 Member: #6227 |
5/18/2017 3:47 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. The guy with the highest potential might just be Hamidou Diallo. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/18/2017 4:31 PM
reub wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. What would be wrong if we traded down Grabbed It mocks out--now does Portland want a guy from the top 8--its possible. There is still a month--we needed shooters defenders and scorers lol RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/18/2017 4:41 PM
Look at these three athletes
Frank jackson---Under rated 3 zone player elite athlete Diallo---Jordan--Kobe like athlete with body control and handles Tyler Dorsey--maybe the best shooter in the draft? RIP Crushalot😞
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29869 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
5/18/2017 4:41 PM
reub wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. He didn't play at all this past season correct? So its tough to say how any of his game translates on the court. Is he a 20pt 5reb 5set guy? With Frenchy his potential is Greak Freak at the guard position with a better jump shot but less athleticism. Even if Frenchy doesnt pan out as a pg. He is 18 and at 6'6 with a 7ft wing span could grow into a G/F with PG skills for the position. Could play him in multiple lineups with other guards or forwards. And could probably fit with most systems. Just needs to fill out more and all pt a sudden his skills as a SF make him a stud even if he struggled as a PG. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Zebo13
Posts: 20376 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/31/2017 Member: #6434 USA |
5/18/2017 5:06 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:reub wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. Exactly. Diallo is not a thing. Why is his name flying all over this board? |
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newyorknewyork
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5/18/2017 5:11 PM
Zebo13 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:reub wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Zebo13 wrote:I'm all in for Frank but would be pretty stoked if we traded 2nd round picks and an asset to get back in the 1st for Justin Jackson. Thinking about it and his weaknesses start to dissolve if he were to add muscle and slide over the the wing. Now his handle is strong for the position. His athletism becomes good for the position. And thats if he doesnt improve these areas to play the PG position effectively anyway. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Zebo13
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5/18/2017 5:14 PM
I'm not opposed to trading back and getting several 1st rounders though.
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