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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21338 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
5/17/2017 1:11 AM
mattshaw78 wrote:Glad we didn't get top 3 because Knicks would have gotten ball which I was afraid of I second this sentiment. Cant say it any better. |
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
5/17/2017 3:59 AM LAST EDITED: 5/17/2017 3:59 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:wargames wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:EnySpree wrote:Zebo13 wrote:EnySpree wrote: Outside of he who will not be named because of teabuggery France has shipped over some good pros. Batum, Parker, Diaw, Gobert.... I also think his experience playing both on and off ball will help if the put him next to Baker in the back court. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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shinmen
Posts: 20298 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/7/2015 Member: #6029 France |
5/17/2017 5:06 AM LAST EDITED: 5/17/2017 5:09 AM
I would go with the best guard defender available and it seems that it's Ntilikina. He doesn't look very quick and a good 1 on 1 player but in system basketball, it won't be as much emphasized.
We tried this year a very good penetrating pg in Rose, it didn't work very good. I'd rather have a a good defender, willing passer and decent shooter. Clyde said it all year, we need defense, defense, defense. |
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Chandler
Posts: 26114 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
5/17/2017 7:12 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:wargames wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:EnySpree wrote:Zebo13 wrote:EnySpree wrote: God damned French! Don't forget that fat center we had on the roster warming the bench. Can't remember his name I for one like the idea of Frenchie as a 2/combo. Forget who mentioned it here first. But that's an excellent ideA imo (5)(5)
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
5/17/2017 7:18 AM
I'm not a fan of Nilikina at all, the final nail on the coffin for me was when some scouts started saying he wasn't a pg- as a shooting guard he's awful. Doesn't seem to have the basic skill set to be anything other than a bust- he seems like a less athletic second coming of Exum.
I'd prefer Isaac at this point, but I'm curious - can anyone suggest some names we haven't already discussed much? Like that SG in Australia? |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
5/17/2017 7:29 AM
There's no way Phil will draft DS Jr though, so stop watching his highlights videos!
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
5/17/2017 8:03 AM
Zebo13 wrote:EnySpree wrote: The draft express videos are pretty rock solid and reputable. In fact, most of them are spot on. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
5/17/2017 8:17 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Dennis smith or the Frenchman. This is a point guard heavy draft as long as you are in the top 10 dennis smith preferably, but i'd be ok with n(t)ik Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
5/17/2017 8:21 AM
PhilinLA wrote:I like Smith, but not for the Knicks. I think he's a bit selfish. uh oh first i heard of this...can you please explain how.. Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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dacash
Posts: 21141 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 10/17/2006 Member: #1179 |
5/17/2017 8:33 AM
we fell to pick four and ppl say we lucked into kp6, not our scouting who told phil he could be a number one over all pick. we fall to eight i kinda trust those same scouts , when our pick blows up ppl will say we luck into him too. i trust the scouts they nice with theirs
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Knixkik
Posts: 34932 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
5/17/2017 8:37 AM
Either way it will be Smith, Ntilikina, or Monk (unless someone unexpected drops.) Monk could go as high as #3 to Philly still. But any of those 3 would be solid picks at 8.
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Ira
Posts: 24678 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
5/17/2017 8:39 AM
Frenchy if he's there. I love his versatility - very good defender and shooter, can play either guard position and plays smart.
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fwk00
Posts: 22136 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/20/2015 Member: #6048 |
5/17/2017 8:45 AM
IMO, BPA would be Lauri Markkanen, #1 PF in the draft. There are plenty of PG candidates late in the second who fit the bill and it opens up the opportunity to trade O'Quinn. Secondly, big men are easier to trade should they disappoint then smaller players.
I think the Knicks have to avoid believing they will score an all-star backcourt talent. That said, both Frankie and Monk who will presumably be available are very good ballplayer prospects. In looking at the "weakness" tape, I'm not seeing anything that can't be fixed with maturity and playing time and more than a few of the "weaknesses" look like blown plays because of a weak teammate. And Monk has the same question marks for me that Curry displayed when he was in the draft. But Monk has a personal charisma that makes me think he can be another Curry/Klay Thompson clone. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53199 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
5/17/2017 9:19 AM
Cartman718 wrote:I think its a fair knock. Smith constantly overdribbles. You see tons of penetration followed by no play so he brings the ball back out. There were times he looked liked Iverson just dribbling all over the damn place until he got a seem to score or make a play. He's got insane quickness but Im not sure how his game translates. He's smaller than Monk and a TO machine as well. If they workout Smith and take him it means he really impressed, most likely with his mouth and what he had to say. He's very untriangle. Over dribble, high usage and small.PhilinLA wrote:I like Smith, but not for the Knicks. I think he's a bit selfish. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37760 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/17/2017 9:20 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:Zebo13 wrote:EnySpree wrote: This video is a bit dated. He reportedly made strides in a lot of these areas during the pro-season They usually release updated footage later during the draft process. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
5/17/2017 9:23 AM
fishmike wrote:Cartman718 wrote:I think its a fair knock. Smith constantly overdribbles. You see tons of penetration followed by no play so he brings the ball back out. There were times he looked liked Iverson just dribbling all over the damn place until he got a seem to score or make a play. He's got insane quickness but Im not sure how his game translates. He's smaller than Monk and a TO machine as well. If they workout Smith and take him it means he really impressed, most likely with his mouth and what he had to say. He's very untriangle. Over dribble, high usage and small.PhilinLA wrote:I like Smith, but not for the Knicks. I think he's a bit selfish. got it. i have admittedly not watched enough of him. sounds like viva la france Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37760 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/17/2017 9:28 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:Uptown wrote:If Malik Monk is still around you take him....if he is gone, the next best option is Smith. The "if motivated part" is always the killer. Most guys in the league are good defenders when motivated. We can say the same thing about Melo and Rose. I'm sure part of it was coaching, but I think part of it is DSJs mentality. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
5/17/2017 9:30 AM
smackeddog wrote:I'm not a fan of Nilikina at all, the final nail on the coffin for me was when some scouts started saying he wasn't a pg- as a shooting guard he's awful. Doesn't seem to have the basic skill set to be anything other than a bust- he seems like a less athletic second coming of Exum. Ferguson is someone I wouldn't be to upset at picking. He is from Dallas area and he is big time athlete. His upside is huge due to his ability to create and handle. Measure in at 6-7 ideal sg material. Has a good shooting form will get better as he develops. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53199 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
5/17/2017 9:31 AM
Donovan Mitchell from Louisville is interesting. He measured a 6'10+ wingspan and the best vert in the combine. He's a much better athlete than many realized I think. He could also be a nice piece moving forward.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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