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5/9/2017  12:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/9/2017  12:53 PM
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Kind of shows what happens if Monk(or anyone else unsuspected) goes higher than 6. Shows how valuable 6 couldve been. But I like the scenario for the Knicks if Monk goes 5 no matter what. Has Diallo going #10. Its to bad --it looks like he is not playing in the pre draft. I really wanted to see what he could do. Hope the KNicks have an open mind and look everywhere. We need a full private workout with him and Frank Jackson.

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5/9/2017  2:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/9/2017  2:10 PM
They even mocked the out come of the draft lottery order yet to be determined.
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5/9/2017  2:15 PM
Vmart wrote:They even mocked the out come of the draft lottery order yet to be determined.

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5/9/2017  2:45 PM
Its a pretty exciting draft as there are so many good players with upside. Fingers crossed.
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The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

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WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy
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5/9/2017  3:15 PM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

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WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.
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5/9/2017  4:39 PM
Thanks for posting this. I have heard Monk to Philly a few times. He makes sense for them. If the Knicks could get Fox I think that would be an awesome outcome. If he starts hitting the three he could be a steal at 7. Also, was it Fox who's 3pt percentage increased the last few weeks of cbb?
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5/9/2017  6:34 PM
fishmike wrote:Its a pretty exciting draft as there are so many good players with upside. Fingers crossed.
I'm excited. I just hope we move up for a change. I can live with the 7th spot but knowing our luck we will move to 9 or something
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5/10/2017  11:54 AM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.

Are you (we...Knicks) looking for a "lead" guard, PG, or SG. From my perspective...from everything I've read, Monk is a SG. Add to this the fact that his D is considered to be not so good.

Our biggest problem is perimeter D, IMO- any guy we take has to be able to hold their own on the perimeter.

I'll continue to be a bytch about Monk, unless we drop to 8-9 and he's the BPA... then I might love him.

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5/10/2017  11:00 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Monk makes sense for Sixers but I could also see them considering Frank because he could play off ball, defend, distribute and shoot for Sixers....depends if they might see more upside with Frankie.
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5/10/2017  11:04 PM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Yep - would take Monk and be perfectly fine.

Funny how it's perfectly understandable that 76er's could pick Monk at #5 but many think Monk not good enough for Knicks at 7/8.

Worst case scenario for Monk is L-Williams/B-Gordon/etc but what if this cat is a star...R-Allen/etc?
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WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.

Are you (we...Knicks) looking for a "lead" guard, PG, or SG. From my perspective...from everything I've read, Monk is a SG. Add to this the fact that his D is considered to be not so good.

Our biggest problem is perimeter D, IMO- any guy we take has to be able to hold their own on the perimeter.

I'll continue to be a bytch about Monk, unless we drop to 8-9 and he's the BPA... then I might love him.

Phil has never had a lead guard in the triangle. Why do we need a PG that we will restrict with our offense. Why not get the outstanding scorer who can get/make big shots in the clutch. Monk could guard PGs and Baker SGs...IMO.

This stuff said -- still like Fox/Frankie.
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5/14/2017  10:19 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.

Are you (we...Knicks) looking for a "lead" guard, PG, or SG. From my perspective...from everything I've read, Monk is a SG. Add to this the fact that his D is considered to be not so good.

Our biggest problem is perimeter D, IMO- any guy we take has to be able to hold their own on the perimeter.

I'll continue to be a bytch about Monk, unless we drop to 8-9 and he's the BPA... then I might love him.

Phil has never had a lead guard in the triangle. Why do we need a PG that we will restrict with our offense. Why not get the outstanding scorer who can get/make big shots in the clutch. Monk could guard PGs and Baker SGs...IMO.

This stuff said -- still like Fox/Frankie.

The problem with Monk is that he did not show any other ability other than shooting in college.
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yellowboy90 wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.

Are you (we...Knicks) looking for a "lead" guard, PG, or SG. From my perspective...from everything I've read, Monk is a SG. Add to this the fact that his D is considered to be not so good.

Our biggest problem is perimeter D, IMO- any guy we take has to be able to hold their own on the perimeter.

I'll continue to be a bytch about Monk, unless we drop to 8-9 and he's the BPA... then I might love him.

Phil has never had a lead guard in the triangle. Why do we need a PG that we will restrict with our offense. Why not get the outstanding scorer who can get/make big shots in the clutch. Monk could guard PGs and Baker SGs...IMO.

This stuff said -- still like Fox/Frankie.

The problem with Monk is that he did not show any other ability other than shooting in college.

Sam Vecenie said he thought that a player like Jerian Grant would be the perfect backcourt partner for Monk. He also said that he would be a good fit for the Bucks with Giannis. I think the same can be said about Philly with Simmons.
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CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:The writer gets cred from me for correctly saying Monk is going to the Sixer,

but then speculates on Isaac, putting out the possibility that he might be a CENTER in today's game and that Philly might look at him.

Philly should take Monk or a great shooting PG. With their young bigs it makes NO sense to take Isaac. What they really need with that lineup is a sniper, which is why Monk is their man.

Would love to see Fox drop, but if he's worked on his shot and shows it in his workouts, we'll have no chance unless we move up when the balls are picked.

Again...my wants, not in any specific order- Fox, Isaac, Nitilkina.

Dont know enough aobut Isaac or Frank but I would be thrilled with Monk. I think he may be the underrated guy

Of the 4...Monk, Fox, Ntilikina, and Isaac, my first glance tells me that Monk is the least versatile of the 4, but what he does BEST is better than the "bests" of the other 4, mainly his streak shooting.

Perfect for a team who wants a complimentary player.

We will see. We're depending on what other teams are going do too much for my liking...just have to hope that we scouted well and get a good idea of what players can and can't do in our workouts.

I'm still saying that if we can hold at 7 we are bound to get a very good player.

there is another aspect to Monk. He does lack some size but his athleticism is off the charts. Dude showed a 42 inch vert. He's not just a sniper. He can jump out of the building. The thing that really intrigues me is if he can really integrate those hops into his game at the NBA level.

Are you (we...Knicks) looking for a "lead" guard, PG, or SG. From my perspective...from everything I've read, Monk is a SG. Add to this the fact that his D is considered to be not so good.

Our biggest problem is perimeter D, IMO- any guy we take has to be able to hold their own on the perimeter.

I'll continue to be a bytch about Monk, unless we drop to 8-9 and he's the BPA... then I might love him.

Phil has never had a lead guard in the triangle. Why do we need a PG that we will restrict with our offense. Why not get the outstanding scorer who can get/make big shots in the clutch. Monk could guard PGs and Baker SGs...IMO.

This stuff said -- still like Fox/Frankie.

The problem with Monk is that he did not show any other ability other than shooting in college.

Sam Vecenie said he thought that a player like Jerian Grant would be the perfect backcourt partner for Monk. He also said that he would be a good fit for the Bucks with Giannis. I think the same can be said about Philly with Simmons.

Philly and Milwaukee might be perfect spots and places that would allow him to come off the bench. I saw someone make the comparison of Ben Gordon and Monk and that makes sense if Monk doesn't improve..
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