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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
4/26/2017 6:18 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lPUhpOQ4Ndno7XFhDPfEC98OGwjc9Rin5nkr-DUUgfI/edit#gid=1499194963
Here is the guy's twitter bio, Cranjis McBasketball I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
4/26/2017 8:23 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
4/26/2017 8:40 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Suprised about Clarkson...in my mind I always think of him as a decent defender. Hard to believe that Russell ...and f'n Ingram...wow. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
4/26/2017 11:02 PM
Porzingis ranks 11th among all forwards. Nice to see.
The Future is Bright!
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
4/27/2017 11:55 AM LAST EDITED: 4/27/2017 11:57 AM
fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:KP's problem on defense was position. He wasnt in the right place and often rotated too slow or sagged too much leaving guys open for looks. That being said his overall impact is positive. He's a great rim protector.WaltLongmire wrote:TPercy wrote:Porzingis ranks 11th among all forwards. Nice to see. I agree. I've written many times that I feel he was out of position due to the lineups on the floor. I don't think it makes sense to play him next to Willy OR Melo, honestly. That's why I covet a mobile long forward to play next to him - a Josh Jackson, Jonathan Isaac, OG Anonuby. Some teams it'll be fine to play Willy and KP together side by side on D. Some teams will eat them alive, we need to be able to adapt. If you look at the playoffs, the Celtics and the Raptors turned their series around when they started going small. But yes, KP has the potential to be an outstanding plus defender. And when this year's team was playing well, KP was doing some amazing things on defense. He just needs to play with the right kind of athletic forward who can fly out to the three point line to contest, or who can stay in front of a guy to stop a drive. Imagine KP playing with a Kawhi? That would be the blue print for a finals team. More than some flashy point guard, I really want that sort of plus potential defensive 3 who can maybe play some small ball four and makes perfect sense next to KP. I'm starting to feel like OG Anonuby may be my top pick after Josh Jackson. I like Jonathan Isaac a lot too... can't tell if he'd be a 3 or a 4 yet though... I love his defensive potential though and his offensive potential. I just want that flexibility in the Knicks lineup. We didn't have it this year and it showed. You need some defensive (and offensive) flexibility at your 2/3/4 slots. Athletic guys who can legitimately defend 2 or 3 positions.
This play in particular - look at Giannis's defense that sets the tone for the whole play. He wouldn't get any boxscore credit for that by any metric - https://gfycat.com/OblongImperfectAsianwaterbuffalo ¿ △ ?
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fishmike
Posts: 53040 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/27/2017 12:03 PM
crzymdups wrote:Hey some of that holds true for scoring as well.. but over all I totally agree. Its also why I am not that high on analytics as gospel. They arent and its still a team game. Just because one player elevates a set of teammates doesnt he will elevate another. Many thing change. The eye test is still the biggest because its the only metric that accurately gauges effort.fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:KP's problem on defense was position. He wasnt in the right place and often rotated too slow or sagged too much leaving guys open for looks. That being said his overall impact is positive. He's a great rim protector.WaltLongmire wrote:TPercy wrote:Porzingis ranks 11th among all forwards. Nice to see. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
4/27/2017 12:48 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Would trade Melo and the 7 pick for Russell, even with those numbers. |
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
4/27/2017 1:14 PM
martin wrote:the one thing I still would love to see with any type of stats is some sort of factor that considers starters versus bench guys. The NBA player tracking defensive stats give you the percentage you held your man to, your man's overall shooting percentage, and the difference. It's listed as Player Defense Dashboard on nba.com. http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-overall/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season This at least partly gets at what you're looking for, but it's only looking at man-to-man defense. Kawhi held his man to 45.0% shooting, while the players he guarded shot 45.9% the rest of the season. So that's a little above average but not spectacular. The prior year he was way better (39.2 vs. 44.8), which is outstanding. I'm guessing you need many years of data to get a valid estimate for a player here. |