Knixkik wrote:I like him a lot. Would be a great 2nd round pick. However, he is nowhere near the athlete that Monk is. Not even close.

He beat Malik Monk in the McDonalds Powerade all america dunk contest. He beat every player--he won. Hes 6-3 with a 44 inch vertical--he would easily be the best thlete in the draft.
http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/aag/en/MediaCenter/2016/2016-game-materials/2016-Jamfest-Results.html

Not for nothing but I watch all of these guys all year--Im not going by draftexpress.

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I like him a lot. Would be a great 2nd round pick. However, he is nowhere near the athlete that Monk is. Not even close.

He beat Malik Monk in the McDonalds Powerade all america dunk contest. He beat every player--he won. Hes 6-3 with a 44 inch vertical--he would easily be the best thlete in the draft.
http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/aag/en/MediaCenter/2016/2016-game-materials/2016-Jamfest-Results.html

Not for nothing but I watch all of these guys all year--Im not going by draftexpress.

Yes we know you watch them all and by the time the draft comes around you'll of made a thread about half of them and how we should draft them in this draft...lol

I don't know anything about this prospect. Just throwing it out there.

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I like him a lot. Would be a great 2nd round pick. However, he is nowhere near the athlete that Monk is. Not even close.

He beat Malik Monk in the McDonalds Powerade all america dunk contest. He beat every player--he won. Hes 6-3 with a 44 inch vertical--he would easily be the best thlete in the draft.
http://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/aag/en/MediaCenter/2016/2016-game-materials/2016-Jamfest-Results.html

Not for nothing but I watch all of these guys all year--Im not going by draftexpress.

I have watched plenty of them both. Jackson could have a higher vertical, i don't know, but having watched them both, Monk is much quicker and more explosive.

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He came into the draft to check it out 2 days ago
Id promise him a draft slot and to be paid like a top 20 pick. If we have avenue to move up from 44 that we will.
He wouldve been a top 3 pick preps to pros and a lot to like about him. He is bIG for a point guard 6-3 210 and unlike Malik Monk handles the ball very well/has much better PG characteristics. Hes powerful maybe the best athlete in the draft and oodles of potential. Best off he can play now with his body and jumpshot.

I like Jackson - think he's a legit NBA PG.

Monk unlike Jackson is the premier perimeter scorer in this draft.

Monk is more of a 2 Jackson more of a 1 jmho. Im not taking away anything from MOnk--but I think hes more Monta Ellis(upside) thats a good player--but is that a winning player?

I had too Google him. I totally forgot about this guy. He's a beast... he might work himself into the lottery between the combine and the workouts

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:He came into the draft to check it out 2 days ago
Id promise him a draft slot and to be paid like a top 20 pick. If we have avenue to move up from 44 that we will.
He wouldve been a top 3 pick preps to pros and a lot to like about him. He is bIG for a point guard 6-3 210 and unlike Malik Monk handles the ball very well/has much better PG characteristics. Hes powerful maybe the best athlete in the draft and oodles of potential. Best off he can play now with his body and jumpshot.

I like Jackson - think he's a legit NBA PG.

Monk unlike Jackson is the premier perimeter scorer in this draft.

Monk is more of a 2 Jackson more of a 1 jmho. Im not taking away anything from MOnk--but I think hes more Monta Ellis(upside) thats a good player--but is that a winning player?

Ellis is not a good 3pt shooter. Monk is an elite 3pt shooter. Monk is more of a McCollum/Gordon type. (upside being McCollum-level, downside is Gordon-level)

I have no problem with grabbing a kid like Jackson. The Knicks need so much talent that I'm hoping they can maximize all 3 picks with good players. Every year guys fall thru the cracks so the Knicks scouts have serious work to do!

In the past the Knicks didn't put enough work into scouting but I think they've improved and this draft is like Christmas for our scouts.

BRIGGS wrote:Shows Jackson finishing against Issac and a very tall athletic Fl State team. His body type speed and burst is made for the nBA. Jackson who is reported at over 210 pounds and 6-3 yet has the quick burst and length to be an above the rim finishing. He has the ball handling the 3 point shot separation ability that differentiates pro players. Hes a value pick--he was co MVP of the MCD game and his 40 min numbers are right up there with any of the young top guys. His value lays in the ability to NOT use 1 early pick on him. In this video you can also see just how skinny Issac is.

It's called "recency bias"

Larry Brown had it. LeBron James can't seem to avoid it. Michael Jordan also has a good fat dose of it.

You can't just look at a players recent stretch, you have to look at a player across time and also how his trade offs will play out at the next level. Jackson has a good jump shot. Good footwork and good shooting mechanics. Dude has poor shot selection and a questionable handle at the next level. He does have a nice baseline tool set, but he's pretty raw. And if he hasn't signed an agent yet, this might all be moot and he might just go back to school. Could he excel as a tweener/gunner? Maybe. A lot of the shots he's getting now/getting off now won't be the same at the next level. I question his general court vision and his BBIQ might be a shade off for a guy tasked with being a distributor. Some guys aren't being coached, some guys can't be coached, there's a difference, Jackson gives me the inkling he's more of the latter.

He is an interesting prospect. That being said, there is a reason teams aren't clamoring for him right now. Personally, and while I agree with Jalen Rose's view on whether players should stay or go in college, I think he could use more development at the college level.

If he's drafted, he's better off going to a team that will let him develop on the third unit at a reasonable pace, he won't get that luxury with the Knicks.