BRIGGS wrote:To Orlando at 5 to change positions if Tatum is there. Ninny won't pick a pg and Orlando needs one so we can pick a pg for them-- they pick Tatum for us
Historically, in the modern era, as the draft gets closer, the best big men prospects tend to rise up the boards.
It's difficult to say how exactly the draft board will shake out past Tier 1 (i.e. Ball and Fultz) It would be premature to make an assessment outside of Tier 1 of who would take whom and when quite yet.
I like Tatum, quite a bit actually, but the Knicks aren't in a good position to be trading up in any circumstance here. If Philly or Boston wanted to make that kind of move, they have the war chest of assets to take that risk.
Baseline test - How many Knicks on next years projected roster would be instant starters against every other team in the league?
How many Knicks projected to be on next years roster would even MAKE the rosters of every other team in the league?
How many players on other teams rosters, within their 2nd and 3rd units, would be INSTANT STARTERS on next years projected Knicks team?
How many players in the 12-15 range of every other team in the league would be INSTANT rotation players for next years projected Knicks?
Knicks need QUALITY, but also QUANTITY at this point.
Also to move from 7 to 5, would cost more than a single protected 1st round pick against current NBA marketplace values.
Use the MIRROR TEST, if the Magic and Knicks were reversed in every possible instance, would you, as a fan of the Magic, want them to trade the 5th pick for the 7th and a future lottery protected first?
Feasible trade scenarios will typically
1) Pass the mirror test barring some other circumstance ( owner going nuts or making demands or taking over the trade process from his front office)
2) Align with current league marketplace values
When Andy Reid got the boot from the Eagles, his first year with the Chiefs, fans clamored for him to trade back from the top overall pick in the draft. Then he was roasted locally in KC, despite helping them win and reach the playoffs, for not trading out of the first pick and taking Eric Fisher, a tackle, with the top selection. The same reason the Chiefs would want to trade back is the EXACT SAME REASON NO OTHER TEAM WANTED TO TRADE UP. Plenty of teams would give up their right up to move up in the Andrew Luck draft. But that is the same reason the Colts would have no desire to move the pick in the first place.
In most trade up/trade down scenarios, someone in some front office is usually having to buck marketplace conventions and values to some degree. There's the value of the player they want, but also the value of the specific drafting slot in an abstract sense. You can waver on the first, but it's bad business to waver on the 2nd.
The Knicks don't have the talent or asset base to shed future assets. And this is coming from a guy who likes Tatum a lot.
Let the draft come to you and see what happens. It's very possible, but unlikely, Tatum falls. Or the Knicks could get a much higher pick than 7th. It's best to just wait and see and BE PATIENT in this part of the process.
4/23/2017 11:19 AM