TPercy wrote:I don't see it with Brunson. Doesn't have the quickness of IT from what I have seen.

Isiaih Thomas isnt quick like an Ish Smith either--hes just fuking good. He uses his everything he has strength command of dribble IQ angles and Brunson does to. Thats why he shot 55% this year.

Sometimes players just get strange valuations--but I think I was spot on last year with Brogdon--and man whats not to like about two really good guards who won 70 games in the last 2 years + a championship? Jalen is somewhere between 6-2 and 6-3 so hes no midget either.

No one could stop John Collins is the ACC--no one from any team.

Watch the kid. Complete dribble command great body control incredible IQ great jumper form in and out strong body. Also with props to Josh Hart--ambidextrous good dribble control strong athletic good with angles good rebounder with long arms great defender.

Theres a reason why Villanova won 70 games the last 2 years. Winning begets winning. We need some hardcore leaders as much as anything as well and those 2 are leaders.

BRIGGS wrote:Pick #7 to Sacramento for pick 10 34 and a Sacramento 2018 2nd rounder

Take John Collins at 10

Promise pick 34 to Jalen Brunson(promise)

Move pick 44 and a future 2 to 35 with Orlando and take Josh Hart

Ive studied this for two weeks. I think Jalen Brunson is a taller Isiah Thomas--hes vastly underrated as is Josh Hart--thats why they won 70 games and lost 5 in the last 2 years plus a chip. If I changed Frank Nakitina for Brunson as a starting PG on Villanova--are they better--I highly doubt it.

We need an athletic big--no one compares to John Collins--my initial thought process --there may be higher ceilings in terms of two way play---Allen maybe Payton--but Collins --no one could stop him--he plays 3 feet over the rim. He is physically stronger and ready to play big time right now.

The premise of my draft is taking ready to go players with + stats diverse skills and under valued perception.

I like Semi Ojeyele too but I dont think it would be probable.

Ive looked at tape of both Brunson and Nikitina --both have potential in different ways--but look at Brunson's game and study it against Isiah Thomas--hes got many of the same characteristics but hes also a tough defender.

Nakitina is 6'6 and has the potential to guard 3 positions, and shoot, and create. His potential huge.

We need an athletic big, but we need one that compliments KP and Willy. Someone who has the quickness to guard stretch 4s but also the strength to hold his position in the paint(Pretty much Draymond Green without the ball handling and play making abilities) .

Caleb Swanigan?

I also wouldn't trade down from 7 unless i'm getting multiple first rounders back. Moving down from 7 to 10 just for an early 2nd rounder doesn't do it for me. The value for that spot should be higher then that.

We could still target the #20 or #26 pick from Portland Offering someone out of the KOQ, Kuz, Lee bunch. Then maybe use #44 and #58 to move up to #34.

Look to come away with Frank, Swanigan, Hart. If Frank and Swanigan become hits given their potential skill sets. Paried up with KP and Willy we would have completely changed our fortune. Add in Hart....

Knixkik wrote:Agree about Hart. But as for the first round, this is our opportunity to add an elite PG or wing player. Most of the guards possibly available to us, like Ntilikina, Smith, or Monk, would go top 5 in most drafts. Getting one of them at 7 or 8 is a real opportunity.

Yeah, agreed. The key is to not overthink the lottery pick too much and just try to grab the best player there.

Moonangie wrote:BPA at our lottery spot. Still hoping we get lucky and move up to top 3.

Agree but its highly subjective.
Most fans read too much and dont even see the guys play. Anyone who saw Malik Monk's last 20 games wouldnt be jumping up and down. But since hes listed at 6 or 8 they believe hes that good--but he has significant liabilities.

A few of the guys at the top deserve to be there but there is no shaq or Lebron.

I like the idea of taking an assumed BPA regardless of position in the lottery and being aggressive going after the two Villanova guards. I think Frank N is a few years away at 170--hes a good prospect but I wish we saw him playing at Iowa or something like that.

These guys Brunson and Hart--they both shot 50+++with efg off the chart 60% and went 68-7 the lat two years with a chip. There is a LOT of bonafides there.

The guy I have my eyes on John Collins--hes going to excel real quick from the 4 spot. Hes powerful and jumps like a young Dwight Howard. When you look at the rebounding per 40 minutes 15??? and 2.5 blocks along with 30 PPG when is the last time a player from a major conference did that? Brunson 2 P FG% 62%%%%??? thats insane both Hart and Brusnon have insane efficiency.

That would be grabbing 3 players who averaged double digits 15-20 and shot collectively 60%efg+?? In a league based on offense

PhilinLA wrote:I'm hoping for Frenchie at 7 and another first coming from a trade.

I think that we can get the Laker's #28 pick for Melo (at the very least) and then grab aggressive combo-forward Semi Ojeleye to go along with Ntilikina. Then take Sindarius Thornwell plus Frank Mason and we've helped our team immeasurably.

crzymdups wrote:I'd go Isaacs or Ntilikina at 7

Dillon Brooks at 44

Frank Mason III at 58

I'd be down with this draft for sure.