If we can agree on that, then we should be able to agree that this roster was a dumb idea. I just went and looked at the predictions across the boards. I couldn't believe how many media outlets had us winning in the mid 30's, which is right where we are headed.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17886875/nba-projected-fall-forecast-standings-2016-17

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-17-nba-expert-predictions-each-teams-win-total-can-warriors-top-73/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2664038-nba-predictions-2016-17-win-loss-projections-for-every-team-pre-training-camp
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2016-2017-nba-season-win-total-odds-and-predictions-092016

Health wasn't that much of a major concern, which was really everyone's concern coming in. So I don't understand why we are all going back and forth about melo and rose, and in all reality, no one thought this roster was more than a lottery team from the gate.

There 2 pieces were missing that make all the difference

1)Glue guy-both ends
2)Leader

Were Toast until that happens

CHEMISTRY

My hope and expectation was run the triangle with no other consideration, lose games and keep pushing until the light went off. Thats how many of phils teams took to the triangle.
Perhaps it was wrong to compromise. Just in theory in hindsight.
Problem is the talent on paper was good enough to make playoffs.
Bench proved to be a strength where it was seen as weakness preseason.

Revisionist history at its finest. I think the overwhelming number of the people on the board criticized the ESPN rankings that had us at 37 wins and were suggesting we'd be 4th or so in the standings if Rose and Noah were healthy. Up until recently, both were healthy and we still sucked- thankfully so. We should've been tanking from the jump.