TheGame wrote:Randle has quickly established himself as our best outside shooting pg, and he has a solid feel for running the offense. He needs to step up his defense as he looks a bit like Rose on defense, but I hope he can improve on d. This kid definitely should have been on the roster from the start of the season.

Yeah. I think the loyalty to certain guys went too far. You would think the Knicks would highly value a Triangle proven PG who can actually SHOOT and run the team. He's a good player to have on the roster and IMO he fits INFINITELY better than any other PG we had this year!!!

Just glad they got him back. Now they can let Rose keep playing us into a Lottery spot while getting Randle some experience.

nixluva wrote:

TheGame wrote:Randle has quickly established himself as our best outside shooting pg, and he has a solid feel for running the offense. He needs to step up his defense as he looks a bit like Rose on defense, but I hope he can improve on d. This kid definitely should have been on the roster from the start of the season.

Yeah. I think the loyalty to certain guys went too far. You would think the Knicks would highly value a Triangle proven PG who can actually SHOOT and run the team. He's a good player to have on the roster and IMO he fits INFINITELY better than any other PG we had this year!!!

Just glad they got him back. Now they can let Rose keep playing us into a Lottery spot while getting Randle some experience.

However I think the game showed Randle's weaknesses as well. In the 4th quarter, the 2nd unit played horribly. It's what sealed the game for Detroit. We had brought it down to 5 or 3 points. The 2nd unit wasn't effective. Even when KP came back in, he got I think 1 shot off. That's poor offense. I don't blame Randle, I just think he isn't a starter or big minute player either.

What we need to find is a system point guard who likes to pass and has good connection on passes. I don't know who that is, but if we stay where we are in the draft, we will get some looks at yong point guards or guards. If we draft no lower than 8th, we may have a chnace to get one of Monk/Smith/Ntilikina. Totally different players, but 2 of them (Smith or Monk) could probably start for us next year right away. Monk is a point guard size wise but a scoring guard. We'd need to look at finding a 2 in free agency who can handle the ball and make passes. Maybe if we dealt Melo to the Clips, Austin Rivers/Malik Monk backcourt???? The other two are more natural point guards. There is no easy quick solution, though. I just want to start fresh with some young, up and coming players with starter level talent next year.

Its all good, but lets not kid ourselves. And if baker lights up deleague or gets called up by another team then we complain "We let him go....."

Nalod wrote:why do we all assume players are "held back" and their performance of late would have been there earlier?
First off we have former MVP Rose, signed CLee, and signed Jennings. Where does he get the minutes? Baker didn't sniff much until Jennings started to faulter. Given Baker beat out Randle for the last spot, due mostly to his size and Randles injury, Im not sure where the "We shoulda" comes from?
Randle got to develop in the Dleague and with Philly.

Its all good, but lets not kid ourselves. And if baker lights up deleague or gets called up by another team then we complain "We let him go....."

"I'll take who is Sasha for 500 Alex."

It should not have been about Baker or Randle. They both could've been on the team if Sasha was not on the team.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:why do we all assume players are "held back" and their performance of late would have been there earlier?
First off we have former MVP Rose, signed CLee, and signed Jennings. Where does he get the minutes? Baker didn't sniff much until Jennings started to faulter. Given Baker beat out Randle for the last spot, due mostly to his size and Randles injury, Im not sure where the "We shoulda" comes from?
Randle got to develop in the Dleague and with Philly.

Its all good, but lets not kid ourselves. And if baker lights up deleague or gets called up by another team then we complain "We let him go....."

"I'll take who is Sasha for 500 Alex."

It should not have been about Baker or Randle. They both could've been on the team if Sasha was not on the team.

We need examples of how to be a pro on the roster. Sasha is that guy. Regardless of what you think, Randle is back where he should be. That's all that matters

nixluva wrote:Yeah. I think the loyalty to certain guys went too far. You would think the Knicks would highly value a Triangle proven PG who can actually SHOOT and run the team. He's a good player to have on the roster and IMO he fits INFINITELY better than any other PG we had this year!!!

Just glad they got him back. Now they can let Rose keep playing us into a Lottery spot while getting Randle some experience.

"Loyalty to certain guys"? You mean the $20m PG they traded for just last off season, or the PG they just signed in the off season to be the primary backup?
Unless you're talking about Sasha, I don't know what you're talking about. Do you normally condone making moves for players and then cutting them in half a season in favor of undrafted rookies. Great way to run a franchise. And I use the term "franchise" lightly.