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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
3/8/2017 6:26 AM
We have so many wholes - that depending on where we land in the first round, it might almost make sense to trade back if we can add a second rounder to a late first rounder.
As always Briggs, you find legit talent that a FO should not sleep on. Hoping Phil continues to find gems & I hope they're not too focused on Euro talent that they over look some better athletes, because we need athletes! |
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
3/8/2017 7:37 AM
The Euro's have done well in the system they want to run such as KP and Willy. But we've also gotten Lance, O'Quinn and Randle who fit the system because of their skills but have better athleticism/tools to play defense than say Kuzminskas, who is more of a typical Euro that does not play enough defense. I don't mind drafting more Euro's so long as they bring some defensive contributions to the team. KP is an elite rim protector. Willy is a good rebounder, but needs to move into his spots and take charges quicker.
I definitely agree with Briggs that the team needs to focus on defense and athleticism this summer. One more thing I'd like to see is that they scout players that like to move off the ball. The type of role player they may be able to get with a second round pick is Justin Holiday. Good athlete. Defensive ability. Can knock down an outside shot. Moves comfortably off the ball. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
3/8/2017 8:59 AM
franco12 wrote:We have so many wholes - that depending on where we land in the first round, it might almost make sense to trade back if we can add a second rounder to a late first rounder. I like ball fultz Jackson and Tatum but I'm sour on the group after that. I'm more interested in team building. I'm much higher on john collins than almost anyone I know and would be willing to pull the trigger of the draft came out a certain way irregardless of what we have on the roster if bridges is gone and there is no trade down scenario than I'd simply say he's our fourth big -- move down and focus on making our perimeter defense and floor spacing much improved. Someone said let's pay Patty Mills this and this and I'm like no let's find our own Patty Mills type where we have them salaried controlled. Look at my suggestion in draft last year Malcolm Brogdon and Derrick Jones jr-- that would've been a coup and if we added seth curry the Knicks had the best offseason last year for char as well. Well we need athletic infusion no doubt in my mind-- guys who will conform to roles and team play on both ends. Don't need to be a star need to fit a role RIP Crushalot😞
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Cartman718
Posts: 29069 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
3/8/2017 9:01 AM
Wish we could move the 2nd rounders to get a first, but if we don't, Phil needs to draft not for potential, but known quantity type of players who can contribute immediately and then be moved for a 1st rounder.
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
3/8/2017 9:07 AM
Hassan Martin has that old school game Zack Randolph type game. Woodley is good too, but I would go after players that can create handle the ball Brooks makes a lot of sense. Hart is my first choice in the second round if available. But the ines you mention are nice players.
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
3/8/2017 9:08 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:The Euro's have done well in the system they want to run such as KP and Willy. But we've also gotten Lance, O'Quinn and Randle who fit the system because of their skills but have better athleticism/tools to play defense than say Kuzminskas, who is more of a typical Euro that does not play enough defense. I don't mind drafting more Euro's so long as they bring some defensive contributions to the team. KP is an elite rim protector. Willy is a good rebounder, but needs to move into his spots and take charges quicker. Draft BPA with high IQ and two way skills and all this noise about the system will go away. Kids that want to be good will shine in any system. The draft should not focus on the system but on skills, IQ and defense. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/8/2017 9:45 AM
It's all about GOOD players. The Triangle is a bit more dependent on having lots of Multi skilled players. Gaines is probably salivating over all the quality prospects in this draft. There should be plenty of Knicks workout stories this summer!!! 😁
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34074 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
3/10/2017 7:42 PM LAST EDITED: 3/10/2017 7:43 PM
Grayson Allen is balling right now... I'm not too high on Duke players this year period but I'd consider him with a second. Lance Thomas was the same type of personality at Duke and he's working out here. I think Allen would've been a first round pick if he declared last year. Might as well buy low
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Lol Rick needs a safe space
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sidneydeane
Posts: 20073 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/4/2016 Member: #6384 |
3/11/2017 3:15 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:Grayson Allen is balling right now... I'm not too high on Duke players this year period but I'd consider him with a second. Lance Thomas was the same type of personality at Duke and he's working out here. I think Allen would've been a first round pick if he declared last year. Might as well buy low man grsyson Allen is so damn hateable, but i gotta admit im surprised he isn't getting much draft hype. i guess he just isn't really elite at anything to make him stand out. just cant see him doing what he does now against nba defense. |
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
3/11/2017 5:32 PM
The 2nd one is a garbage pick better off taking a Euro and praying he can play in 3 years
BRIGGS wrote:Here is my list--emphasis on two way players with big athletic bodies and really good 3 point shooters Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 28100 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
3/11/2017 8:01 PM
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Frank Mason Isaiah Briscoe Marcus Keene Sindarius Thornwell Grayson Allen Dedric Lawson Melo Trimble 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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