CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

90sKnicks wrote:At this point, it's ridiculous to play Carmelo another minute the rest of the season. There's 5 games left and we are out of the playoffs. You put him in against the Bulls or Raptors and he could carry us to a victory. Let him sit the rest of the season with Lance Thomas and Rose. If we win 2 or 3 over the final 5 games with them out of the lineup i can live with that. but i can't live with us winning 2 or 3 more games because of Melo lighting it up.

No idea what you ate watching, but playing Melo is our best chance for losing. He makes the offense dysfunctional and he doesn't play defense, because he is uh..."confused about his role". If he does heat up on any ine game he needs to be benched.

They need to not play him to help the tank. Did you see today's game? That is what next year will look like with hopefully a good rookie in the mix. Pencil the knicks in for next year's lottery as well.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

90sKnicks wrote:At this point, it's ridiculous to play Carmelo another minute the rest of the season. There's 5 games left and we are out of the playoffs. You put him in against the Bulls or Raptors and he could carry us to a victory. Let him sit the rest of the season with Lance Thomas and Rose. If we win 2 or 3 over the final 5 games with them out of the lineup i can live with that. but i can't live with us winning 2 or 3 more games because of Melo lighting it up.

No idea what you ate watching, but playing Melo is our best chance for losing. He makes the offense dysfunctional and he doesn't play defense, because he is uh..."confused about his role". If he does heat up on any ine game he needs to be benched.

They need to not play him to help the tank. Did you see today's game? That is what next year will look like with hopefully a good rookie in the mix. Pencil the knicks in for next year's lottery as well.

I watched a lot of games this season with Melo sucking the life out of the offense, and our record shows exactly what to expect. Playing Melo is the easiest way for us to lose, because Melo is a loser.

When this same team (without Melo) beat the Heat, you wrote it off as a meaningless win, now that they played badly you are basing the entire next season's forecast on this game? Got it, LOL.

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

90sKnicks wrote:At this point, it's ridiculous to play Carmelo another minute the rest of the season. There's 5 games left and we are out of the playoffs. You put him in against the Bulls or Raptors and he could carry us to a victory. Let him sit the rest of the season with Lance Thomas and Rose. If we win 2 or 3 over the final 5 games with them out of the lineup i can live with that. but i can't live with us winning 2 or 3 more games because of Melo lighting it up.

No idea what you ate watching, but playing Melo is our best chance for losing. He makes the offense dysfunctional and he doesn't play defense, because he is uh..."confused about his role". If he does heat up on any ine game he needs to be benched.

They need to not play him to help the tank. Did you see today's game? That is what next year will look like with hopefully a good rookie in the mix. Pencil the knicks in for next year's lottery as well.

I watched a lot of games this season with Melo sucking the life out of the offense, and our record shows exactly what to expect. Playing Melo is the easiest way for us to lose, because Melo is a loser.

When this same team (without Melo) beat the Heat, you wrote it off as a meaningless win, now that they played badly you are basing the entire next season's forecast on this game? Got it, LOL.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

90sKnicks wrote:At this point, it's ridiculous to play Carmelo another minute the rest of the season. There's 5 games left and we are out of the playoffs. You put him in against the Bulls or Raptors and he could carry us to a victory. Let him sit the rest of the season with Lance Thomas and Rose. If we win 2 or 3 over the final 5 games with them out of the lineup i can live with that. but i can't live with us winning 2 or 3 more games because of Melo lighting it up.

No idea what you ate watching, but playing Melo is our best chance for losing. He makes the offense dysfunctional and he doesn't play defense, because he is uh..."confused about his role". If he does heat up on any ine game he needs to be benched.

They need to not play him to help the tank. Did you see today's game? That is what next year will look like with hopefully a good rookie in the mix. Pencil the knicks in for next year's lottery as well.

Yes, that's the plan. But during our journey to the lottery next year, our yoots will be learning together, building cohesion, moving the ball (and without it), playing tough D, etc. Also, KP et al will be the leadership, not Melo/Rose. It is a CRITICAL step in the development of this program. And we will add a stud in 2018 draft.

I'm stoked!

magicTs wrote:Tank update. Looks to now be between us an these 4 for spots 4-8. Have listed all remaining fixtures in order. The 5th spot is still very much ours if we want it.

4) Magic 27-50
@ Cavs, Nets, Pacers, @ Bulls, Pistons

5) Sixers 28-49
Nets, Bulls, Bucks, Pacers, @ Knicks

6) Knicks 29-48
Bulls, Wizards, @ Grizzlies, Raptors, Sixers

7) Kings 30-47
Mavs, @ Lakers, Rockets, Suns, @ Clippers

8) Twolves 30-45
Blazers, @ Warriors, @ Blazers, @ Jazz, @ Lakers, Thunder, @ Rockets

Thank god the Wolves and Kings have those Lakers games. And Kings have a Suns game. Otherwise I think Orlando and Philly may lose out at this point. It'd be nice if Orlando beat the Nets at home. Not sure I see them winning another game though. Unless the Pistons are eliminated on that last day of the season and rest their stars - I could see the magic winning that one at home.

I don't know if I believe there's any way in hell we lose to the Sixers the last day. The other games I think we'll lose because those teams need them for playoffs positioning.

crzymdups wrote:

magicTs wrote:Tank update. Looks to now be between us an these 4 for spots 4-8. Have listed all remaining fixtures in order. The 5th spot is still very much ours if we want it.

4) Magic 27-50
@ Cavs, Nets, Pacers, @ Bulls, Pistons

5) Sixers 28-49
Nets, Bulls, Bucks, Pacers, @ Knicks

6) Knicks 29-48
Bulls, Wizards, @ Grizzlies, Raptors, Sixers

7) Kings 30-47
Mavs, @ Lakers, Rockets, Suns, @ Clippers

8) Twolves 30-45
Blazers, @ Warriors, @ Blazers, @ Jazz, @ Lakers, Thunder, @ Rockets

Thank god the Wolves and Kings have those Lakers games. And Kings have a Suns game. Otherwise I think Orlando and Philly may lose out at this point. It'd be nice if Orlando beat the Nets at home. Not sure I see them winning another game though. Unless the Pistons are eliminated on that last day of the season and rest their stars - I could see the magic winning that one at home.

I don't know if I believe there's any way in hell we lose to the Sixers the last day. The other games I think we'll lose because those teams need them for playoffs positioning.

Agreed. I think we would have to do something completely ridiculous now ourselves not to get the 6th spot at worst. I think that the Kings definitely beat the Suns and I'm hoping the Twolves at least win the Lakers game but also wonder if they might beat the Blazers tonight. Really hoping the Sixers beat the Nets tomorrow to draw level with us. Its been almost impossible to predict the twists and turns of this over the last week to 10 days but the fact is if we lose out we get the 5th spot and thats what we should be doing.

fishmike wrote:

magicTs wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

magicTs wrote:Tank update. Looks to now be between us an these 4 for spots 4-8. Have listed all remaining fixtures in order. The 5th spot is still very much ours if we want it.

4) Magic 27-50
@ Cavs, Nets, Pacers, @ Bulls, Pistons

5) Sixers 28-49
Nets, Bulls, Bucks, Pacers, @ Knicks

6) Knicks 29-48
Bulls, Wizards, @ Grizzlies, Raptors, Sixers

7) Kings 30-47
Mavs, @ Lakers, Rockets, Suns, @ Clippers

8) Twolves 30-45
Blazers, @ Warriors, @ Blazers, @ Jazz, @ Lakers, Thunder, @ Rockets

Thank god the Wolves and Kings have those Lakers games. And Kings have a Suns game. Otherwise I think Orlando and Philly may lose out at this point. It'd be nice if Orlando beat the Nets at home. Not sure I see them winning another game though. Unless the Pistons are eliminated on that last day of the season and rest their stars - I could see the magic winning that one at home.

I don't know if I believe there's any way in hell we lose to the Sixers the last day. The other games I think we'll lose because those teams need them for playoffs positioning.

Agreed. I think we would have to do something completely ridiculous now ourselves not to get the 6th spot at worst. I think that the Kings definitely beat the Suns and I'm hoping the Twolves at least win the Lakers game but also wonder if they might beat the Blazers tonight. Really hoping the Sixers beat the Nets tomorrow to draw level with us. Its been almost impossible to predict the twists and turns of this over the last week to 10 days but the fact is if we lose out we get the 5th spot and thats what we should be doing.

6 would be fine in this draft. 5 would be much better especially as I think there is nice jump in odds of winning the lottery.

The Heat needed to win for their playoff position as well and yet we beat them. Maybe Jeff needs to pull KP/Billy if we start getting into ridiculous leads against playoff teams.

magicTs wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

magicTs wrote:Tank update. Looks to now be between us an these 4 for spots 4-8. Have listed all remaining fixtures in order. The 5th spot is still very much ours if we want it.

4) Magic 27-50
@ Cavs, Nets, Pacers, @ Bulls, Pistons

5) Sixers 28-49
Nets, Bulls, Bucks, Pacers, @ Knicks

6) Knicks 29-48
Bulls, Wizards, @ Grizzlies, Raptors, Sixers

7) Kings 30-47
Mavs, @ Lakers, Rockets, Suns, @ Clippers

8) Twolves 30-45
Blazers, @ Warriors, @ Blazers, @ Jazz, @ Lakers, Thunder, @ Rockets

Thank god the Wolves and Kings have those Lakers games. And Kings have a Suns game. Otherwise I think Orlando and Philly may lose out at this point. It'd be nice if Orlando beat the Nets at home. Not sure I see them winning another game though. Unless the Pistons are eliminated on that last day of the season and rest their stars - I could see the magic winning that one at home.

I don't know if I believe there's any way in hell we lose to the Sixers the last day. The other games I think we'll lose because those teams need them for playoffs positioning.

Agreed. I think we would have to do something completely ridiculous now ourselves not to get the 6th spot at worst. I think that the Kings definitely beat the Suns and I'm hoping the Twolves at least win the Lakers game but also wonder if they might beat the Blazers tonight. Really hoping the Sixers beat the Nets tomorrow to draw level with us. Its been almost impossible to predict the twists and turns of this over the last week to 10 days but the fact is if we lose out we get the 5th spot and thats what we should be doing.

Well, I called this one, Twolves hold on to beat Portland. Really good news for us, moves the Twolves 2 ahead and gives some breathing space.

Tomorrow evening could be a pivotal one. Lets hope we lose to the Bulls whilst the Sixers and Kings win at home to the Nets and Mavs respectively!

4) Magic 27-50
@ Cavs, Nets, Pacers, @ Bulls, Pistons

5) Sixers 28-49
Nets, Bulls, Bucks, Pacers, @ Knicks

6) Knicks 29-48
Bulls, Wizards, @ Grizzlies, Raptors, Sixers

7) Kings 30-47
Mavs, @ Lakers, Rockets, Suns, @ Clippers

8) Twolves 31-45
@ Warriors, @ Blazers, @ Jazz, @ Lakers, Thunder, @ Rockets

meloshouldgo wrote:The only real interest is if we can draw level with the Sixers for the fifth. The Magic are almost out of reach. Hornacek better start coaching like he means it. If he screws up the tank anymore I'll start calling for his ass to be fired.

I agree- we won't catch the magic (annoying as we had full control over our destiny but chose to beat them twice). Nets have been winning, so they will beat the Sixers. I don't think the sixers will win another game the rest of the season, including the one vs us.

90sKnicks wrote:Man, the 76ers really have the tank down to perfection. such a thing of beauty if you are a Sixers fan. Meanwhile, the Knicks will play Melo tonight and put forth a spirited effort. Which franchise has a brighter future? The Sixers with Embiid, Simmons, and likely 2 top 5 picks in this year's draft or us with Willy and KP and a Top 8 pick?

I don't think there's any chance the NBA gives the Sixers the Lakers pick. Magic will be at the lottery ping pong ball night and he'll get that pick.

That said, the Sixers have Covington and Saric, too. The big question with them is the health of Simmons and Embiid. Simmons seemed like sort of a freak injury, but Embiid's seem constant.