An article from last summer

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-players-carmelo-anthony-job-win-article-1.2704968

So Phil Jackson reached the correct conclusion after a recent meeting with an increasingly impatient Carmelo Anthony: As long as Anthony is here and All-Star capable, the 31-year-old’s career timeline should be placated. If not, what’s the point of paying him $124 million with a no-trade clause?

“One of my questions to Carmelo was, you know, we haven’t made the playoffs and now this is three years, two years, since I’ve been here — are we moving quickly enough for you and your anticipation of trying to be into a competitive playoff situation?” Jackson said. “I think that was our conversation and established the fact of his desire, the idea that he is getting into an age where things have to happen for him. So we decided to activate ourselves.

This is Anthony’s responsibility now. His burden to win games. No more excuses or demands through the media. That was the implication Friday from Jackson, who reversed the roles after a year of Anthony publicly pleading that the team president be better at his job.

Jackson revealed Anthony asked for a point guard in their meeting, and how he, Jackson, quickly turned that request into Derrick Rose. Once the deal was completed, the Knicks were “activated,” to steal Jackson’s buzzword, into their win-now plan that aligns more with Anthony’s desires. Aside from the presence of Kristaps Porzingis — which should never be underestimated — it’s like the first two years under Jackson don’t exist. A waste of time and triangle seminars.”

newyorknewyork wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Does it make any difference, though? we have arrived at the same place- if he had decided to stick with rebuilding in the offseason we'd be looking at cap space and a high pick, and we're still looking at cap space and a high pick- only thing we've done is add about $4mil per year in salary (Noah is on $17mil, Lopez is on $13mil)

Which is where I give credit to Phil which many knock him for. He took his gambles without doing much damage to the prospects of rebuilding. That is very hard to do.

Credit??..We suck and is a borderline lottery team after three years..That requires skill these days???

meloshouldgo wrote:I was upset when we traded Rolo for Rose and I still think it was a bad trade. I also think the emergence of Willy as the center of the future had mitigated the damage from that trace. Neither Rolo nor Noah are realistic future options.

Phil tried to get Melo a point guard.... while at the same time not locking us into long term salary. He went out and got two of them in Rose and Jennings. It didn't work out for Melo because we're all losing, but the plan for the future is still in place. Gotta appreciate that foresight at least.

EnySpree wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:I was upset when we traded Rolo for Rose and I still think it was a bad trade. I also think the emergence of Willy as the center of the future had mitigated the damage from that trace. Neither Rolo nor Noah are realistic future options.

Phil tried to get Melo a point guard.... while at the same time not locking us into long term salary. He went out and got two of them in Rose and Jennings. It didn't work out for Melo because we're all losing, but the plan for the future is still in place. Gotta appreciate that foresight at least.

What will REALLY piss off Phil ax grinders is if Willy wins ROY and he's got a real shot. He's close to a double double most nights and could have some big scoring games. Fingers crossed

fishmike wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:I was upset when we traded Rolo for Rose and I still think it was a bad trade. I also think the emergence of Willy as the center of the future had mitigated the damage from that trace. Neither Rolo nor Noah are realistic future options.

Phil tried to get Melo a point guard.... while at the same time not locking us into long term salary. He went out and got two of them in Rose and Jennings. It didn't work out for Melo because we're all losing, but the plan for the future is still in place. Gotta appreciate that foresight at least.

This is why I am pretty soft on Phil while others are out with the pitchforks. In the past it has always been one plan, pass or fail. However instead of buying at the deadline (and selling picks probably) Phil has stood put, run young guys out there and take a step back. So while this roster built around Melo has been a clumsy failure can something positive come out of it? Well yes.. we get a nice look at Randle, Baker, Willy and maybe someone else for 20+ games. So the wins wont impress anyone and neither will tanking this CAN be part of the process down the road.

What will REALLY piss off Phil ax grinders is if Willy wins ROY and he's got a real shot. He's close to a double double most nights and could have some big scoring games. Fingers crossed

newyorknewyork wrote:

holfresh wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Does it make any difference, though? we have arrived at the same place- if he had decided to stick with rebuilding in the offseason we'd be looking at cap space and a high pick, and we're still looking at cap space and a high pick- only thing we've done is add about $4mil per year in salary (Noah is on $17mil, Lopez is on $13mil)

Which is where I give credit to Phil which many knock him for. He took his gambles without doing much damage to the prospects of rebuilding. That is very hard to do.

Credit??..We suck and is a borderline lottery team after three years..That requires skill these days???

We could suck with no draft picks and be stuck in cap hell trying to find ways to be a playoff team. Remember thoooose days?

Minnesota Timberwolves traded Love for Wiggins after Love made it clear he wanted out in a move most people agreed with when it comes to Minny. They then won the lottery and drafted Towns which again was a logical choice. They then landed the biggest Free Agent coach out there in TT who has a winning track record. And all these logical decisions have resulted in a sorry season this year for the Wolves.

Its hard to win in this league.

holfresh wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Does it make any difference, though? we have arrived at the same place- if he had decided to stick with rebuilding in the offseason we'd be looking at cap space and a high pick, and we're still looking at cap space and a high pick- only thing we've done is add about $4mil per year in salary (Noah is on $17mil, Lopez is on $13mil)

Which is where I give credit to Phil which many knock him for. He took his gambles without doing much damage to the prospects of rebuilding. That is very hard to do.

Credit??..We suck and is a borderline lottery team after three years..That requires skill these days???

I see that you want you favorite team to win now... but Knicks cannot win now and for another 2-3 years for sure.
Are you sure you are in correct place or state of mind? It can be dangerous for your mental helth...

nyknickzingis wrote:

stopstandthere wrote:The mistake of Phil is to insist the traingle.

We barely ran the Triangle this year
Actually running the Triangle has shown to help defensive balance

Mistake was getting point guards who don't play winning basketball

Rose is a complete lateral move. He neither helped or hurt the team. He literally adds almost zero wins moving from one team to another.

Yea with a Melo centric team you need a really good, I mean really good, cerebral, hall of
Fame caliber PG running the show.

Like let's say Jason Kidd