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Dagger
Posts: 22065 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/12/2012 Member: #4184 |
2/24/2017 10:38 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 10:40 AM
Yeah melo comes off really bad criticizing the team right after the trade deadline. If he wanted out I'm sure Phil would have packed his bags on the spot. If you don't want to be here why are you "napping" through the trade deadline? Watching him smile and laugh playing his same stupid basketball last night as we got steamrolled by the cavs was infuriating. Please Melo, just go already, the majority of fans really want nothing to do with you anymore.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33764 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
2/24/2017 10:41 AM
I know I'm straight up lying to myself here, but what if Phil actually has a plan and this is part of Phil's scheme to get Melo to waive his NTC in the summer?
I know, I know... if Phil had a plan he wouldn't have given Melo a NTC to begin with... but I need to manufacture hope goddamnit Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
2/24/2017 10:49 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 10:50 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I know I'm straight up lying to myself here, but what if Phil actually has a plan and this is part of Phil's scheme to get Melo to waive his NTC in the summer? Phil gave Melo that no trade clause in good faith. Melo took a pay cut because he could have did what Lebron did and take a 2 year deal so he could get the bigger max deal. Melo wants to stay in ny... so Phil gave him power and authority to dictate where he wanted to go when things went south... why isn't that the narrative? That's absolutely what happened and for Melo to sit here and claim he's frustrated? Dude you have to leave. It's over. Phil met him like a man and laid down the plan. Melo is the one that's not living up to his part. Sorry man you have to go. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
2/24/2017 10:55 AM
EnySpree wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I know I'm straight up lying to myself here, but what if Phil actually has a plan and this is part of Phil's scheme to get Melo to waive his NTC in the summer? Melo can't act like he has no control in all of this!!! First is his play on the court and his leadership! Since he has not done what Phil asked that's on Melo. Second is the fact that Melo could easily ask for a trade to get out of here but he chose not to. He wants to be comfortable and at the same time deflect blame to Phil and the org. Melo is a decade removed from KP, Willy and whoever we draft this summer. He knows darned well what the direction of this team is!!! |
fishmike
Posts: 53028 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
2/24/2017 11:04 AM
I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33764 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
2/24/2017 11:08 AM
fishmike wrote:I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at. I'm with you on that... ahhh memories of arguing of the merits of the trade... wasted time. wasted talent. I thought Melo would've been something like KG - a star that needed a change in scenery to succeed. let's face it - Melo just wanted to live the big life in NYC Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
2/24/2017 11:10 AM
fishmike wrote:I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at. The crazy thing is I actually like Melo! I just thought he was finally ready to be DadMelo after last year. He actually was passing last night but the chemistry is so bad that the passes were just off enough that they resulted in turnovers. Not to mention the strong D of the Cavs. Still Melo was a key part of the failure since he has been the best player on the team. He can't absolve himself from responsibility for the losing. |
fishmike
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2/24/2017 11:13 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:this. He likes to win, everyone wants to. However winning is second to his lifestyle, his brand and his milestones. He's a tremendous talent and great scorer and could be part of a winning situation but so could most guys in the league. He's not a driver or a pusher. He wants guys to like him. Many times that is fine, many others it doesnt work. I appreciate he wanted to be here and was willing to shoulder the weight as they say, but its not working and it isnt going to work.fishmike wrote:I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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EnySpree
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2/24/2017 11:21 AM
fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:this. He likes to win, everyone wants to. However winning is second to his lifestyle, his brand and his milestones. He's a tremendous talent and great scorer and could be part of a winning situation but so could most guys in the league. He's not a driver or a pusher. He wants guys to like him. Many times that is fine, many others it doesnt work. I appreciate he wanted to be here and was willing to shoulder the weight as they say, but its not working and it isnt going to work.fishmike wrote:I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at. All of this... I'm tired of the media trying to push a fake agenda... this **** is over. Melo needs to go and he needs to lay it out and stop the ****ing mind **** bull****. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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JrZyHuStLa
Posts: 25677 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/5/2007 Member: #1241 |
2/24/2017 11:25 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 11:27 AM
fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:this. He likes to win, everyone wants to. However winning is second to his lifestyle, his brand and his milestones. He's a tremendous talent and great scorer and could be part of a winning situation but so could most guys in the league. He's not a driver or a pusher. He wants guys to like him. Many times that is fine, many others it doesnt work. I appreciate he wanted to be here and was willing to shoulder the weight as they say, but its not working and it isnt going to work.fishmike wrote:I am with you... Not many here have supported Melo like I have over recent years and I am just done with him. Doesnt want to pass or move the ball. Doesnt want to play defense. He wants guys around him that help him win his way which is being the big scorer. Times up. Its done. Its over man. Getting Melo back to the playoffs isnt the Knick's job, its Melo's job. Lets keep featuring Melo so he can chase his coveted scoring milestones while we continue to lose at the pace we are at. I agree with this. Melo the person and the professional has been someone you commend. He's handled the recent bull**** as well as his time in New York fairly well. The guy never gets in trouble, has made charitable contributions and has had a fairly positive outlook with everything. It's just that winning isn't the TOP priority, something this organization is long overdue for. Some guys have it, some guys don't. That's all. Time to move on. |
smackeddog
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2/24/2017 11:29 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 11:38 AM
I've defended Melo a lot but I cannot stand him at the moment- Phil's direction is he wants him to go, he refuses to go and then complains we have no direction. We do, he's just blocking it because of his brand interests. Fine, reduce him to sixth man status for the rest of his NY days and let him know that we will not re-sign him under any circumstances when his contract is up. If he wants to waste the rest of his career to win a p-ing contest with Phil, let it be.
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arkrud
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2/24/2017 11:32 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 11:35 AM
Cannot agree more with the sentiment but Melo is here to stay minimum until the end of the season.
So what to do with that? Especially from his perspective... Knicks have a direction and a lot of learning and work to do. Melo has non. His professional life has no meaning, no purpose, no goals to reach. I see why he is frustrated. Blaming and deflecting will not help his state of mind. Talk about painting himself in the corner with no way out. First time I really feel for the man. Will not be surprised if he will have some alignment flaring up and go to the beach until summer... This may be the best thing for everybody. Same goes for Rose. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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smackeddog
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2/24/2017 11:37 AM
EnySpree wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I know I'm straight up lying to myself here, but what if Phil actually has a plan and this is part of Phil's scheme to get Melo to waive his NTC in the summer? I do wonder when Phil and Melo fell out and what exactly triggered it- was it because Phil didn't hire Thibs? The stopped speaking before this season started, just not sure why or when |
CrushAlot
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2/24/2017 11:37 AM
There are more Melo quotes from the article that Bleacher Report links to here.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18754646/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-understand-team-direction-inactivity-trade-deadline I can't find the interview. I am not sure how he is supposed to respond to the questions he was asked. Melo and Jeff are the guys that have to face the media. In regards to it being KP's team or building around KP, that makes a lot of sense. But keeping Rose certainly wasn't a build around KP move. Neither was bringing in Rose, Jennings, Lee, and Noah. I am not sure what the plan is. It has been 5 months and two days since Phil talked to the media. Melo doesn't know the plan. Jeff either doesn't know it or won't share it. No one else talks to the press. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
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2/24/2017 11:38 AM
Maybe the plan will be tweeted in code today.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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EnySpree
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2/24/2017 11:43 AM LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017 11:44 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Maybe the plan will be tweeted in code today. I tell you what... that's not even funny anymore. Truth is Phil never intended for any of his tweets to be pulled out of context. He's said that and apologized for the confusion. But still Phil is hurting Melo so bad with his comments. His peers around the league are standing up for him and his oppressed state.... don't know how he can play under those conditions. Fuck that stupid ****. Enough is enough. Get the **** off my basketball team!!!! Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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fishmike
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2/24/2017 11:50 AM
EnySpree wrote:tell me how you really feelCrushAlot wrote:Maybe the plan will be tweeted in code today. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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EnySpree
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2/24/2017 11:53 AM
CrushAlot wrote:There are more Melo quotes from the article that Bleacher Report links to here. Bro stop saying you don't know what the plan is. Rose is on a one year deal. That's the only reason why we took the chance. Low risk high reward....he didn't work out and now we have cap space aka he's gone. We are not resigning him. That's the plan. Noah is a guy Phil admires and wanted him in the organization. That's it. Of course he was expecting Noah to contribute more on the court but he's still a guy Phil wants herespect to help Kristaps and the future Knicks. Jennings is a expiring. Lee is a movable piece.... what is so hard to understand. Phil still left him space to build on winning or build around KP.... turns out we're just going to build around KP. Get with the program. Stop feeding into that bull**** espn spits out. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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CrushAlot
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2/24/2017 11:58 AM
EnySpree wrote:The article you posted links to espn for the quotes.CrushAlot wrote:There are more Melo quotes from the article that Bleacher Report links to here. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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