Gudris wrote:i hope we get into playoffs, it will be better for young players development than tanking and hoping for lucky picks

Be honest - KP is likely 3 years away from being able to sustain a whole season, and max performance. And we don't have enough talent to compete, even when KP et al are developed. And who exactly are keepers long term? KP & Willy? 2 Friggin players?

We need a top five talent this draft, and then we'll need another top level player next year and the year after. Then, there is a potential foundation.

You can't build a team out of thin air.

franco12 wrote:

Gudris wrote:i hope we get into playoffs, it will be better for young players development than tanking and hoping for lucky picks

Be honest - KP is likely 3 years away from being able to sustain a whole season, and max performance. And we don't have enough talent to compete, even when KP et al are developed. And who exactly are keepers long term? KP & Willy? 2 Friggin players?

We need a top five talent this draft, and then we'll need another top level player next year and the year after. Then, there is a potential foundation.

You can't build a team out of thin air.

4 more yrs of losing, and you think KP is hanging around on a team, that would (by then) have 4 trips to the playoffs in 20 years...lol

that would also mean phil guided the knicks to zero playoff appearances in his 5 yr tenure.

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:The problem is some teams are going to start tanking and our schedule gets somewhat easier. I am worried we might move up in the standings and get stuck with like a 13-15 pick in the draft, when we really need to trying to move down to the 6-7 pick.

We need need to move Rose and Jennings for picks. Bringing back Rubio might actually hurt us because he can play.

We have a system that provides countless mid range and long range shots, his biggest weakness by far. how exactly does this benefits us, will be right back wishing for a pg who can breakdown the defense..

Because (a) he plays defense and (b) he is a much better passer than Rose. So yeah, I think he could improve team's performance.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Gudris wrote:i hope we get into playoffs, it will be better for young players development than tanking and hoping for lucky picks

Be honest - KP is likely 3 years away from being able to sustain a whole season, and max performance. And we don't have enough talent to compete, even when KP et al are developed. And who exactly are keepers long term? KP & Willy? 2 Friggin players?

We need a top five talent this draft, and then we'll need another top level player next year and the year after. Then, there is a potential foundation.

You can't build a team out of thin air.

4 more yrs of losing, and you think KP is hanging around on a team, that would (by then) have 4 trips to the playoffs in 20 years...lol

that would also mean phil guided the knicks to zero playoff appearances in his 5 yr tenure.

Yea, he should want to stay - we can pay him the most money, and we're building something great with him.

And yes, I don't have a problem with zero playoff appearances from Phil if he has started to erase the prior 15 years of futility.

I mean, all the bad years of zero draft picks, foolish trades, fa signings- that doesn't go away overnight. This isn't xbox where you can do a hard reset.

We've sucked for a long time. I don't think Phil helped things with the Noah/Lee signing and the Rose trade. They were gambles that for a while looked like they would pay off.

I love all his other young players - KP, Willy, Kuz, Baker- gamers all that play a nice brand of basketball.

Couple tweaks, a top five pick, and in 2-3 years, I bet we can be an exciting team that can legit make noise in the play offs.

But we're several players away.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Gudris wrote:i hope we get into playoffs, it will be better for young players development than tanking and hoping for lucky picks

Be honest - KP is likely 3 years away from being able to sustain a whole season, and max performance. And we don't have enough talent to compete, even when KP et al are developed. And who exactly are keepers long term? KP & Willy? 2 Friggin players?

We need a top five talent this draft, and then we'll need another top level player next year and the year after. Then, there is a potential foundation.

You can't build a team out of thin air.

4 more yrs of losing, and you think KP is hanging around on a team, that would (by then) have 4 trips to the playoffs in 20 years...lol

that would also mean phil guided the knicks to zero playoff appearances in his 5 yr tenure.