U could offer Houston,Thomas and Sweetney for Cwebb and Chrisite
and theres a chance they might bite. Anything less like Thomas and Houston straight up and they'll say no.

Although injury prone when Cwebb is healthy he's a 20.10.5 every night
and that would put the Knicks atleast 45-50 + wins

Webbers contract is a year longer than Houston's while Chistie's is shorter that Thomas'. If I were Isiah I would make that offer because although u're mortgaging your future with Sweetney you are getting a superstar upfront who's value is at an all time low after just recovering from injury.

christie
marbury
thomas
webber
maybe dampier won't have 2nd thoughts of sigining the mle

crawford
penny
jyd
nazr

it's a sick team on paper, if that team is healthy ill bet a bag of cookies that they'll crush detroit.

It's not a high risk for the Knicks because Houston is on 1 leg anyways. I think there's like 1% chance that this will happen though

Well it will be starphucking all over again but we'll have one hell of a season or two with this lineup I can live with that.

Posted by OasisBU:

Webber can be traded for another big - why take H20? If I was thinking like the Kings thats exactly what my thought process would be.

There is no way anyone would take H2O's contract off our hands unless its the last year of his contract. He has absolutely no other use than jump shooting and takes up way too much cap space to be even remotely worth it.

i'd be willing to bet that he's at least considered it, but getting the Kings to take Allan Houston's contract off our hands would be alot to expect...

maybe if he offered them Penny & Sweetney for C-Webb it would be more attractive than the thought of taking on Houston's contract? or if they preferred, TT & Sweetney instead? i don't know...just throwing out some possible combo's here.

Penny, KT & Sweetney for C-Webb & Christie would work cap wise as well.

that would really help the Knicks' cause in getting Dampier to sign for the MLE...then Baker would probably sign for the LLE if he could be assured of having a significant role in the offense off the bench:

C - Dampier / Nazr
PF - Webber / Baker / JYD
SF - TT / Ariza / Shandon
SG - Houston / Christie
PG - Marbury / Crawford
IR - Moochie

great team on paper, but 2 major concerns in Houston & C-Webb staying healthy for a full season...even w/o those 2, that team would have enough depth to at least make the playoffs in the East imho.

perfectly understandable...it's a move that has high risks, but also has high potential reward as well, because a team like that if healthy could definitely contend for a title imho.

Posted by raven:

over the enxt 4 yrs, i can find around 80 millions of reasons not to trade for webber.

(next 4 yrs salary : $17,531,250 $19,125,000 $20,718,750 $22,312,500 )

No way we sacrifice youth or potential on him.

I agree 100%. I wouldn't trade Steph, Jamal, TT, or Sweetney for Webber.

Posted by TMS:

Kings won't take Houston unless you throw in Sweetney & some future picks to entice them to make the deal...who has more trade value? C-Webb or Houston? it's not even close in my eyes...C-Webb is the more impactful player for any team...both have their health issues & both contracts are horrible...the Kings don't need to trade away C-Webb & take back a contract like Houston's...it's just not going to happen.

I agree and that's why I see no scenario where we have something I'm willing to give up to get Webber and that Sac is interested in. So, he can stay in Sac

Posted by Nalod:

They don't have a need for an allan type player with Peja and Christie on the team. Shorter contract is nice incentive.

CWeb cracks under pressure. His Ncaa melt down and the conf final collapse against the Lakes are epic.

But we don't have anyone whom has cracked at a critical moment, cuz they have never been in one!

I could have sworn I remembered Allan Houston taking the Knicks to the finals and Penny being a key part of Orlando's run to the finals.

i don't see the Kings' ownership being able to justify a trade like that to their fanbase, no matter how much money they stand to save...unless they plan on having a complete firesale & selling off all their talent, in which case i think they could easily get crap players at the end of their deals & draft picks for a player of C-Webb's talents...no need for them to take on any undesirable contracts like those of Shandon Anderson or Moochie Norris in the process.

anyway, like Bonn said, you either are willing to give up alot to get C-Webb, or you accept the fact that there isn't a match to be made...the Knicks won't be able to get C-Webb from SAC for garbage like KT, Shandon & Moochie...no way no how.