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Didn't realize this about Lonzo Ball. Apparently his mother is going through a health issue so serious his family couldn't be at the game last night. Kind of explains his flat performance.

LivingLegend wrote:?

Who looked better their freshman year Monk or Booker?

I remember Booker being a nice player but nowhere as explosive or athletically dynamic as Monk.

So many are down playing Monk in the pro's as a smallish shooting guard but I'm thinking he may be more then many (me included) are assuming.

Yeah, agreed. I made the comparison to Booker last page. Just in that neither guy got to show off their full game at Kentucky. I think Monk is the better athlete. I think a healthy version of Eric Gordon or Bradley Beal is a good comp for him.

He'd certainly be on my board for the Knicks. But right now, I'm having hopes of Jackson or Ball. Time will tell where our pick falls.

crzymdups wrote:

Chandler wrote:I like a lot of what Ive seen from fox especially poise and defense.

Have some concern about his outside shot and that at NBA defenses will sag off him cut under screens etc as they do against rondo

I admit I'm horrible at projecting talent to NBA. But I've liked monk and ball. Haven't seen Jackson or fultz (but already concerned he's a sales job. How can a player be worthy of #1 on such a poor record)

I'm similarly iffy on Fultz. He has the tools, but it seems like he has no idea how to win games. Could've just been a terrible team. But in college you'd think a number one overall pick would at least make the tournie.

Watch Josh Jackson if you can. The guy is smooth. At first he reminded me of Iguodala but bigger. I think he can be a dominant force. I think he could be a Pippen/Odom/Kawhi guy in the Triangle. He's my favorite guy in the draft. He looks like a man among boys. I hesitate to say it... but moreso than Iggy... he's reminding me a bit of Bron sometimes. He's very very very good. I would have a hard time not taking him number 1 overall.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Chandler wrote:I like a lot of what Ive seen from fox especially poise and defense.

Have some concern about his outside shot and that at NBA defenses will sag off him cut under screens etc as they do against rondo

I admit I'm horrible at projecting talent to NBA. But I've liked monk and ball. Haven't seen Jackson or fultz (but already concerned he's a sales job. How can a player be worthy of #1 on such a poor record)

I'm similarly iffy on Fultz. He has the tools, but it seems like he has no idea how to win games. Could've just been a terrible team. But in college you'd think a number one overall pick would at least make the tournie.

Watch Josh Jackson if you can. The guy is smooth. At first he reminded me of Iguodala but bigger. I think he can be a dominant force. I think he could be a Pippen/Odom/Kawhi guy in the Triangle. He's my favorite guy in the draft. He looks like a man among boys. I hesitate to say it... but moreso than Iggy... he's reminding me a bit of Bron sometimes. He's very very very good. I would have a hard time not taking him number 1 overall.

I really want Jackson. He is my first choice. The Knicks might be able to get their point guard at 44. If not Jackson I think Fox might be the guy. Jackson would be the pick if the Knicks had #1. Fox is the pick at 4-6 if Jackson is gone.

I agree. This seems like the most logical approach. Jackson just gives me that vibe you want to see from a star player on your team. Fox is coming on in the same way of late.

I view Fultz as PG Melo -- something about his style of play and demeanor that I just don't care for.

Assuming Fultz is the consensus #1 pick --- I would rate the following in terms of Knick fits.

1) Jackson ---- by far my #1 pick for KP sidekick
2) Fox ---- I've been on board Fox bandwagon for a long time....I think he fits our system, KP and NY
3) Tatum --- I take Jackson/Fox/Tatum all over Ball
4) Monk ---- another guy I think would fit triangle and be electric in NY
5) Ball ---- I REALLY worry about his athleticism and body breaking down in the NBA (dad is issue)
6) DSJ ----- extremely TALENTED but don't think he fits system, knee injury and attitude add ? Marks
7) Frankie --- he's a wild card - none of us know enough about him
8) Bridges --- he could be a better pro than NCAA player

I believe he is an elite passer, with elite vision, feel and an off the charts b-ball IQ. He is a prodigy in terms of how he sees and feels the game.

I love his height and his skill with the ball but after that I have concerns.

- he is a mediocre to poor NBA athlete ((don't let the occasional alley oop dunk fool you - he is sub par)
- he is a very poor on the ball / on the dribble defender
- he struggles and doesn't show any great willingness to get in the paint or to the rim
- he doesn't get to the foul line (if someone could check Fox FT attempts vs Ball on the season against top 20 teams)
- he has little to no mid-range game
- he is unselfish but his shot selection when he does shoot is suspect and the reason you see some of the quick/forced long range 3's comes back to his lack of elite athleticism.

If Knicks take him -- I'll jump on the bandwagon and hope for the best but I had the same concerns with D-Russell and I think he's disappointed big time in the NBA so far.

CrushAlot wrote:Jordan Bell is destroying my bracket.

Yeah, his defense was incredible. That Oregon team D was pretty good. Kansas played a rushed game and never settled down. Jackson was alright, really hurt by first half foul trouble. Frankly, kinda glad he might slip a little in the minds of other teams. We shall see, I guess.