StarksEwing1 wrote:Not a title. I think most will agree knicks still need to add pieces which may take another 1-2 years and by that time he will be 34 ir 35 with a lot of minutes on his legs.

Melo if not overworked can still provide some of this pieces when he will be traded at the end of his contract.
Hopefully he will be still able to play and maintain some NBA value.
Knicks need to a take good care about him and not force him to play big minutes or some rigid defense for the sake of winning couple more games here and there.
We will need him body able in 2 years.

Also we've learned a lot about the roster over these 37 games. We can see light at the end of the tunnel with some of our young guns. We now know pretty much what we have from the vets. Melo, Rose, Noah, Lee and Jennings are not going to be strong enough to carry this team very far unless the young players continue to develop and take on more of the load. The losses on 2nd games of back to backs is making that crystal clear. Still there's enough time for this team to get something going and to get back into the playoff standings in the East. If they can get into the playoffs that's good for the young players to get that kind of experience. That's good enough for me if that happens.

rathan wrote:New to the site. Can't help but question why we resigned him. Phil Jackson could have really built this team with more winning players, something Carmelo has never showed to be good at. He's an advanced stat nightmare, completely ineffective in win contribution and he costs us most of our salary cap. I did an analysis of this a few years ago and recently updated it. Would love to hear people's thoughts.

https://medium.com/@rathanharan/bill-simmons-is-carmelo-anthonys-grandmother-77ae3236baea#.if47wspmg

No not unless he joins Lebron James who drags him to a title. That or we somehow draft a steph curry with our lottery pick

1) drag a team full of pure sheehit to the playoffs
2) actually win a playoff series for the first time since Spree-Ewing.
3) win 54 games and the division
4) manage to keep the commissioner from having to run our franchise for us.
5) re-sign with the franchise even before Phil found the latest unicorn/savior, when the franchise can't attract flies, let alone other first tier talents.

yes, we should tank since we can't beat the Cavs or the Warriors.

I mean, everyone else on the team is hitting game winning shots every week, right?

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:No, of course we can't win with Melo. what a stupid azz question. I mean, this franchise was steaming straight to a chip for years before Melo got here, and all we did with this putrid, self-centered DOUCHE was:

1) drag a team full of pure sheehit to the playoffs
2) actually win a playoff series for the first time since Spree-Ewing.
3) win 54 games and the division
4) manage to keep the commissioner from having to run our franchise for us.
5) re-sign with the franchise even before Phil found the latest unicorn/savior, when the franchise can't attract flies, let alone other first tier talents.

yes, we should tank since we can't beat the Cavs or the Warriors.

I mean, everyone else on the team is hitting game winning shots every week, right?

LOL

jrod---how many posts have you made that have the "win 54 games" with Melo. Only you Dolan and a few of his highly paid yes men believe that you can throw a few vets around Melo and win 50 games. Well yes if you throw westbrook around him--sure. But a non star? ah well here is the proof

2016-17 Knicks 17-20 .459 11th, East Conference - -
2015-16 Knicks 32-50 .390 13th, East Conference - - DNQ
2014-15 Knicks 17-65 .207 15th, East Conference - - DNQ
2013-14 Knicks 37-45 .451 9th, East Conference - - DNQ

In the 4 years after we won 54 games we are well under .400--there is nothing better to deal with the truth than facts. Not conjecture or wishful thinking--facts. You watch the games--you think this team is good? It doesn't even have a chance to be good because they give up too many points. They work on it and work on it and REGRESS! They simply do not have the talent to play winning basketball as is. Not happening. So either get Westbrook or somebody like that or trade the selfish Melo--selfish coming here and now selfish not to leave---he doesn't really want a chip at 33--because Im sure there are other teams it better position to get him there or at-least try. This Knicks team is a lottery team"as is"--just watch.

LMFAO

BRiggS -- I can post about half the amount of Melo eats sheehit, Melo is a cancer, Melo is a loser, the Trade was unlubricated rape, blah blah blah posts.

Was I talking about losing with Melo? Really nice of you to omit these facts from your little table:
2012-13 Knicks 54-28 SemiFinal Round
2011-12 Knicks 36-30 1st Round
2010-11 Knicks 42-40 1st Round
2009-10 Knicks 29-53 DNQ
2008-09 Knicks 32-50 DNQ
2007-08 Knicks 23-59 DNQ
2006-07 Knicks 33-49 DNQ
2005-06 Knicks 23-59 DNQ
2004-05 Knicks 33-49 DNQ

Notice the difference? So the question is, will the Knicks ever win with Carmelo? Past performance not guaranteeing future results cuts both ways, BRIGGS.

Selfish coming here, and selfish for not leaving. You have a tremendous logic set going for you there.

Funny, a few weeks ago, we weren't a lottery team, were we BRIGGS?