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holfresh
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1/26/2017  11:58 AM
Mexico president won't meet with Trump...
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1/26/2017  12:13 PM
In Louisinana its now a hate crime to resist arrest and you can face up to 10 yrs in prison.
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1/26/2017  1:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2017  1:26 PM
djsunyc wrote:"Always remember that when given overwhelming evidence of Russian tampering and zero evidence of voter fraud, Trump chose to investigate us".

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/how-republics-end.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-MOBILE-AUD_DEV&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=MOBILEFULLPAGE&kwp_0=301556&kwp_4=1167311&kwp_1=531212&_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com/

Read this article. It lays it out pretty clearly. This really isn't s
About Russia, it's about talking power and wealth away from the people and consolidating them at the top. It's about rigging the system so the other side can't win, while also providing lip service to American values. In other words it's the basic republican agenda.

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1/26/2017  4:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2017  8:37 PM
Trump wants to impose a 20% tax on goods from Mexico to pay for the Border Wall..So that means we, the consumer, will be paying for the Border Wall...
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1/26/2017  10:18 PM

MURICA

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1/27/2017  8:25 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — On his first full day in office, President Donald Trump called the acting director of the National Park Service to dispute widely circulated photos of Trump's inauguration.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that Trump personally ordered park service head Michael Reynolds to produce additional photographs of the previous day's crowds on the National Mall. The president believed that the photos might prove that the news media had lied in reporting that attendance had been no better than average, the newspaper said.

The Post reported that Reynolds forwarded additional photos to the White House as requested.

Photos taken that day made clear that crowds didn't extend to the Lincoln Memorial as Trump later asserted and that his claim of 1 million to 1.5 million people in attendance was wrong.

Day 1!

Finally someone tackling the real issues.

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1/27/2017  2:17 PM
Carlos Slim, Mexican gazillionaire, says he will negotiate Mexican side of Nafta to help Mexico's president...

What a shet show...
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1/27/2017  3:37 PM
Trump loves to lay on the Pomp and circumstance big Photo Op! Having his meeting with officials in a very formal way. Just take note of his PERFORMANCE as President. Also notice all the curtains are Gold now.

Obama didn't quite make such a Dictator like show out of his first Pentagon visit

I just get the idea that Trump is clearly more media savvy and into making a bigger production of every thing he does no matter how mundane. Not a big deal but just noteworthy that Trump is so concerned with the THEATRICS and LOOK of how he performs his duties.

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1/27/2017  5:15 PM
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1/27/2017  5:16 PM
But we needed change.
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1/27/2017  6:15 PM
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Yeah but he from Kenya and they don't respect us abroad...

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1/27/2017  6:34 PM
holfresh wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

Yeah but he from Kenya and they don't respect us abroad...

You know, nothing generates respect abroad more than telling our allies that we no longer want to honor decades-old treaties (NATO, NAFTA). They love it when major allies are unable to be relied on.

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1/28/2017  3:59 PM
Trump is fulfilling all the fears that his opponents had during the Election!!! He's embarrassing this country in the eyes of the world. SMDH!
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1/28/2017  4:20 PM
nixluva wrote:Trump is fulfilling all the fears that his opponents had during the Election!!! He's embarrassing this country in the eyes of the world. SMDH!

He truly is a nasty sack of ****

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1/28/2017  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2017  4:24 PM
nixluva wrote:Trump is fulfilling all the fears that his opponents had during the Election!!! He's embarrassing this country in the eyes of the world. SMDH!

the muslim ban is on all countries that have yet to have a terrorist commit an attack in the US. the countries that have can still come to this country b/c trump gotta get his $$$'s y'all.

this ban includes green cards...and dual citizenship.

it is f cking pathetic and i hope his voters are shamed into the sea of hypocrisy they are drowning in.

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1/28/2017  4:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2017  5:01 PM
VCoug wrote:You know, nothing generates respect abroad more than telling our allies that we no longer want to honor decades-old treaties (NATO, NAFTA). They love it when major allies are unable to be relied on.

ever watch wrestling? the most popular time in it's history was when stone cold steve austin was the alpha male that talked sh t against establishment and fought his boss. fans got behind that.

in this scenario - the establishment were politicians and trump is stone cold steve austin.

only difference is that this is not wrestling - that's a program for kids. this is the real world - not a movie or tv show. but some people love rallying behind that type of alpha male. some folks are suckers for hype, slogans and the con. if some of these folks were born a few thousand miles away, they would be ISIS soldiers - it's the same psychology for folks that join them and those that are all in on trump.

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1/28/2017  4:39 PM

even the most crooked of the crooked says "hey man, that's f cked up"

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1/28/2017  4:49 PM
djsunyc wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump is fulfilling all the fears that his opponents had during the Election!!! He's embarrassing this country in the eyes of the world. SMDH!

the muslim ban is on all countries that have yet to have a terrorist commit an attack in the US. the countries that have can still come to this country b/c trump gotta get his $$$'s y'all.

this ban includes green cards...and dual citizenship.

it is f cking pathetic and i hope his voters are shamed into the sea of hypocrisy they are drowning in.

His voters are jumping up and down. Ignorance truly is bliss.
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1/28/2017  4:59 PM
more fun for the racists...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/aegis/ph-ag-immigration-0127-20170126-story.html

Police agencies in Harford County say they don't stop people just to check their immigration status, but the recent experience of a Bel Air woman raises questions about how clearly that's understood by officers on his streets, the town's police chief admits.

Bel Air Police Department Chief Charles Moore, who's led the agency since September 2015, said he's not sure if his department has a policy specifically dealing with questioning a person's immigration status, but added: "If there isn't one, there will be."

In the wake of President Trump's statements on Wednesday that federal grants may be withheld from so-called "sanctuary cities" that don't take enforcement actions against people who are in the United States illegally, Moore and other law enforcement leaders in the county could find they have to walk an even finer line between civil liberties and checking for undocumented aliens.

Trump also is expected to suspend issuing visas for people from several predominantly Muslim countries — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — for at least 30 days, according to a draft executive order obtained by The Associated Press, as reported Wednesday by Tribune News Service.

On the morning of Dec. 21, Aravinda Pillalamarri was walking in her Bel Air neighborhood, where she walks all the time, when she said she was stopped by a Bel Air Police Department officer.

When she responded to his question about what she was doing – that she was walking – Pillalamarri says the questions continued.

When she asked why the officer was asking her so many questions, he replied because someone had called police.

"Walking while brown?" Pillalamarri said she then asked the officer.

A police supervisor arrived and began to question Pillalamarri, more aggressively, she said, and told her she wasn't free to leave because she "was under criminal investigation."

He asked why she didn't have identification with her.

"Why don't you have ID?" she said the supervisor asked her. "Are you here illegally?"

Once the officers had run her name through their computer system, Pillalamarri said, she was allowed to leave and walked to her home, just a few doors away.

Pillalamarri, 47, has lived in Bel Air for more than 30 years and is a U.S. citizen. Her parents came to America from India when she was a baby. She went to Bel Air High School.

She walks in her neighborhood nearly every day, she said.

She related her story to members of the Bel Air Board of Town commissioners at their town meeting Jan. 17, not to get anyone in trouble, she explained, but to bring to their attention the need to uphold everyone's civil rights.

Color was not on her mind when she was first stopped, Pillalamarri told the commissioners.

"Only when the supervisor asked 'are you here illegally' did my sense of color, and of being unequal, come forth and my interest in my civil rights take a back seat to get out of the situation safely," she said.

"Public safety does not need to come at the cost of civil rights," she continued. "I am sharing this incident here not to ask anyone here to find fault or take sides. We are all on the same side and can use this as an opportunity to learn and improve. The responsibility to uphold civil rights is one that all of us share, and we need to do our part and also expect the police to do their part."

Moore, who was present at the meeting, said his officers do not ask someone's immigration status, particularly during a routine call.

"That's not a concern of ours," Moore said Wednesday. "That's just not the proper protocol that I would take. And my officers, from what I've seen from their performance, I don't see that from them either."

Immigration status could come into play when someone is arrested, Moore said, but he added that would more likely be when they're taken to the Harford County Detention Center.

The Harford County Sheriff's Office, which runs the detention center and is the chief law enforcement agency for most of the county, does not ask for proof of citizenship when stopping or detaining someone. Deputies only ask for identification, according to Cristie Kahler, spokesperson for the agency.

"We do not have a policy that specifically requires deputies to ask for proof of citizenship," Kahler explained via email. "We do ask to see identification as a regular course of action during a motor vehicle or personal stop. Once they provide ID, we query the info through multiple databases. Should one of those databases provide an alert regarding the status of the individual, and indicate they have been flagged by immigration or federal authorities, we then contact that agency. That agency then provides direction on how to further handle the individual and whether or not to detain for further investigation."

"It doesn't matter to me where you're from, who you are, anything else. If you live in the town of Bel Air or you're in my jurisdiction, my position is to protect and serve everyone," the Bel Air PD's Moore said. "I'm not going to question who you are or where you came from. My job is to maintain and build trust among everyone."

In Pillalamarri's case, there had been a call about suspicious activity and the officers responded, he said.

"There could have been more sensitivity on the part of the officer," Moore told the town commissioners.

Pillalamarri said she was uncertain of what her rights were when the officers stopped her.

"Police are training in dealing with people when they stop them on the street, but ordinary people are not necessarily training in interacting with the police," she said to the commissioners. "I did not know when I was stopped whether I had the right to remain silent, whether I was being legally detained or what information I was required to give."

Pillalamarri has since met with Moore, as well as Town Administrator Jesse Bane, who was formerly county sheriff and a career police officer, about the incident.

Moore said at the town meeting the police department could hold an open forum with the community.

"The community needs to be aware of what police are doing. They have to investigate fully," he said. "And on the officer's part, there has to be sensitivity, so it doesn't escalate to the point of being wrong, of things being said they way they're said."

The community needs to be able to trust the police, and work with them, he said.

"That's not going to be the norm to ask someone if they're illegal, or if they're legal. That's not what we want. When you start doing that to people of color, of different origin, different cultures, you start to develop a level of mistrust among those people," Moore said. "That's not what we want in the Town of Bel Air. We want to build trust and a level of cooperation among all our citizens.

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