TPercy wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

TPercy wrote:Funny how all of this info we are getting have come from anonymous sources and they expect us to believe it just because its Trump. Even if Trump was sharing classified information with the Russians, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He is the president, the commander in chief of a global powerhouse. He has full discrection of what is deemed classified or not classified.

LOL - I guess you expect the sources should publicly self identify?

No. That doesn't mean that the public should listen to everything the media is saying because they have an anonymous source that says so. I'm not denying the possibility, but just throwing the information out there and expecting me to believe it is not enough. Luckily with the appointment of a special counsel who knows what he is doing we can get more information.

One thing that is certain is that the outcome is going to be bad. If Trump is lying about his carelessness and his campaign is gulty of wrongdoing, then he is subject to a grave offense and American faith in the executive drops. If the media has been throwing shady information, then American faith in the press drops as well. We need truth. An anonymous source doesn't cut it.

These reports have to a GREAT degree been on target. The Print News is doing great work and has way more credibility than Trump! Trump lies literally every time he opens his mouth!

fishmike wrote:

TPercy wrote:Funny how all of this info we are getting have come from anonymous sources and they expect us to believe it just because its Trump. Even if Trump was sharing classified information with the Russians, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He is the president, the commander in chief of a global powerhouse. He has full discrection of what is deemed classified or not classified.

so what happens when the FBI director says Trump was lying about being told he wasnt being investigated, that he demanded the FBI chief's loyalty and he tried to shut down the Flynn Russia probe. What then? Just another Trump hater?

But since you brought it up, both of the stories you brought up aren't established truths, especially the memo.

TPercy wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

TPercy wrote:Funny how all of this info we are getting have come from anonymous sources and they expect us to believe it just because its Trump. Even if Trump was sharing classified information with the Russians, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He is the president, the commander in chief of a global powerhouse. He has full discrection of what is deemed classified or not classified.

LOL - I guess you expect the sources should publicly self identify?

No. That doesn't mean that the public should listen to everything the media is saying because they have an anonymous source that says so. I'm not denying the possibility, but just throwing the information out there and expecting me to believe it is not enough. Luckily with the appointment of a special counsel who knows what he is doing we can get more information.

One thing that is certain is that the outcome is going to be bad. If Trump is lying about his carelessness and his campaign is gulty of wrongdoing, then he is subject to a grave offense and American faith in the executive drops. If the media has been throwing shady information, then American faith in the press drops as well. We need truth. An anonymous source doesn't cut it.

Whether you believe them or not, without those reports no special counsel would ever have been appointed. The tone from the white house, the Republicans and even the deputy FBI director until very recently was that there was no need for a special investigator.

MARK KARLIN, EDITOR OF BUZZFLASH AT TRUTHOUT

A single-payer health care bill passed the New York State Assembly for the fourth time on Tuesday, and is headed for the State Senate. The Senate has turned down the bill before, but according to The Village Voice, its prospects are growing more favorable this year:

Currently, the bill is only two votes shy of passing in the 63-seat state senate. It recently picked up the support of the influential Independent Democratic Conference, buoying its number of supporters to 30.

A special election on May 23 to fill an assembly seat vacated by now-council member Bill Perkins is all but guaranteed to go to real estate developer Brian Benjamin, who has vowed to support the bill, Rivera told the Voice. The only hurdles now include the conversion of just one more holdout — the most likely target is Senator Simcha Felder, a Democrat who caucuses with Republicans — plus a small pile of procedural battles. Felder, who told the Guardian in April that he had no position on the bill, did not respond to multiple phone calls and emails from the Voice.

The Village Voice noted in response to the legislation's detractors:

As for the fear of rationed access, [economist Gerald] Friedman [the department chair of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst's economics program] told the Voice that "the current system already involves rationing — New Yorkers are rationed by lack of health insurance." He says 20 percent of New Yorkers are unable to visit the doctor because of high copays and deductibles. Under the NYHA, "all of those people would have equal access."

Additionally, doctors currently squander much of their time filling out forms for the insurance industry — time that under a single-payer system would be spent seeing patients. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent each year on insurance-related expenses, Friedman said, adding that across the country, hospitals have more people employed for billing and insurance than they do beds. This stripping-away of cumbersome bureaucracy would likely drive more doctors to practice in New York, thus driving down wait times.

"All those resources that go to billing and insurance would go to patient practice," Friedman said. "If it's the same dollar, doctors would rather make that dollar dealing with patients than with insurance."

In an email sent to BuzzFlash, Assemblyman Richard N. Gottfried, health committee chair and the bill sponsor, commented:

The health care system is rigged against working people, and the Trump administration is working to make health care access even worse. New York can do better with an 'improved Medicare for all' single-payer system that covers all of us and is funded fairly. Support is growing with the public and in the State Senate, where we now have 30 co-sponsors including all the mainstream Democrats and Independent Democratic Conference. Assembly passage is an important step as we continue to build support for universal health care in the face of the Trump agenda.

As noted in a recent Socialist Worker article, some states are picking up the slack in efforts to create a "Medicare for all" health system. This is happening in the bellwether state of California, where -- according to the Truthout report -- "SB 562 would provide universal health care for all state residents regardless of immigration status and take private insurance companies out of the health-care equation." There are a slew of advocacy groups and individuals energetically backing the Golden State legislation.

Insurance companies are a lot like casinos: When your premiums are paid, you are betting against the house. That is because, to make a hefty profit, the insurance companies have to overcharge via high premiums or deny health care based on fine-print technicalities. Often, they do both. That is precious money that could be going directly toward patient care in a single-payer system, such as Medicare. Since its inception, BuzzFlash has been an advocate of Medicare for everyone in the United States.

As far as New York's legislation to make single-payer health care a reality in the Empire State, ThinkProgress notes, "Similar proposals passed the Assembly in previous years, but this is the first year it has a fighting chance in the state's Senate."

Granted, a federal single-payer bill would still be preferable to a number of state-based single-payer systems. However, the energy and momentum in states such as New York and California are a positive sign that progressive, practical and just health care reform may be achievable despite the ruinous American Health Care Act recently passed by the House.

Former Vice President Joe Biden had harsh words for former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Thursday night.

“I never thought she was the correct candidate,” Biden said at the SALT conference in Las Vegas, according to Fusion reporter Hamilton Nolan. “I thought I was the correct candidate.”

TheStreet’s Ronald Orol, who was also at the SkyBridge Capital event, said the audience clapped at Biden’s comments.

“No man or woman should announce for the presidency unless they genuinely believe that for that moment in the nation’s history they are the most qualified person to deal with the issues facing the country,” TheStreet quoted him as saying.

He also didn’t rule out running himself in 2020, according to multiple reports from the event.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article151565947.html

Washington Post now saying there is a "person of interest" in the White House who is not part of the investigation.

Not impossible that it is Kushner, who has had Russian ties/meetings.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/865664767855173632

gunsnewing wrote:

TPercy wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

TPercy wrote:Funny how all of this info we are getting have come from anonymous sources and they expect us to believe it just because its Trump. Even if Trump was sharing classified information with the Russians, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He is the president, the commander in chief of a global powerhouse. He has full discrection of what is deemed classified or not classified.

LOL - I guess you expect the sources should publicly self identify?

No. That doesn't mean that the public should listen to everything the media is saying because they have an anonymous source that says so. I'm not denying the possibility, but just throwing the information out there and expecting me to believe it is not enough. Luckily with the appointment of a special counsel who knows what he is doing we can get more information.

One thing that is certain is that the outcome is going to be bad. If Trump is lying about his carelessness and his campaign is gulty of wrongdoing, then he is subject to a grave offense and American faith in the executive drops. If the media has been throwing shady information, then American faith in the press drops as well. We need truth. An anonymous source doesn't cut it.

Faith in the press was lost long ago. Capped off by the election coverage. We except to crazy democrats and the folks here. It's all very entertaining to follow tho

So convenient to write off accountability when you can blame the media. While I hate sore losers, I have to admit that sore "winners" are more of a novelty.

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

TPercy wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

TPercy wrote:Funny how all of this info we are getting have come from anonymous sources and they expect us to believe it just because its Trump. Even if Trump was sharing classified information with the Russians, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He is the president, the commander in chief of a global powerhouse. He has full discrection of what is deemed classified or not classified.

LOL - I guess you expect the sources should publicly self identify?

No. That doesn't mean that the public should listen to everything the media is saying because they have an anonymous source that says so. I'm not denying the possibility, but just throwing the information out there and expecting me to believe it is not enough. Luckily with the appointment of a special counsel who knows what he is doing we can get more information.

One thing that is certain is that the outcome is going to be bad. If Trump is lying about his carelessness and his campaign is gulty of wrongdoing, then he is subject to a grave offense and American faith in the executive drops. If the media has been throwing shady information, then American faith in the press drops as well. We need truth. An anonymous source doesn't cut it.

Faith in the press was lost long ago. Capped off by the election coverage. We except to crazy democrats and the folks here. It's all very entertaining to follow tho

Can we please stop the anti Media BS? There are real reporters doing reputable work. This is an extremely serious issue we have with the Trump Presidency and the craven republicans willing to let him ruin the safety of the country so they can pass their stupid Tax Cuts!!! JESUS Stop being so obtuse and open your damned eyes!!!

Trump's own people are leaking for a reason! The Intelligence Community is leaking for a reason! He should NEVER have been allowed to be President and he's proving it everyday. I can't believe there are STILL people willing to make excuses for this CLOWN!

Jesus Shuttleworth? He was being obtuse?

GustavBahler wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Releasing incremental snippets of news through twitter as click bait. Journalism has definitely taken a fall as well.

If you had actually clicked on the Twitter link you would have found the text that UK's software was unable to display.

It's jared Kushner have confirmed this with four people. I'm not speculating

Gotcha missed that