[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

OT: Politics Thread
Author Thread
WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/28/2014
Member: #5843

4/1/2017  11:06 PM
holfresh wrote:These hypocrites...

Bill O’Reilly and Fox News pay $13 million to settle sexual harassment suits from five women..

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bill-o-reilly-sex-assault-accusers-13m-fox-news-article-1.3015974

Hired someone who worked with Bill Clinton to be a kind of "reputation defender."

Karma is always a B.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
AUTOADVERT
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138
Alba Posts: 15
Joined: 7/12/2010
Member: #3186

4/2/2017  12:12 AM
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/31/false-flag-dog-wag-warning/



MARCH 31, 2017
False Flag Dog-Wag Warning
by PAUL STREET

I’m not a Truther and never have been. I don’t obsess over the JFK assassination, which (however) always sort of struck me as a CIA and/or Mafia and Cuban exile hit. My interactions with conspiracy theorists over the years since 9/11 have been ugly and close at times to violent.

I have never run across a nastier group of fake-macho paranoid-style know it all Know Nothing bullies in all my life. In my experience, the 9/11 truth crowd makes the Spartacus Youth League look like a nice little tea party when it comes to flinging venomous abuse at serious left intellectuals and activists.

That said, let me declare something else I’ve been thinking since the Inauguration of the Orange Haired Beast as President of the United States: the time has never been riper for a false flag terror attack. Reality television product Donald Trump and his top political advisor, Steve Bannon, a veteran right wing propaganda filmmaker, need a dog to wag.

Think about it. The BannonTrumPence administration came in with the lowest popularity numbers in the history of the modern U.S. presidency. Herr Donald lost the popular vote by nearly 2 million tallies. His presidency has been one Twitter-fueled travesty after another, from his ridiculous Day One trip to the CIA headquarters to his clumsy, unconstitutional, and widely protested Muslim travel ban to his bizarre charge that Barack Obama bugged his phones to his epic fail on Obamacare. The ridiculous Trump’s current approval rating (36%) fell to new record lows twice this week. What a loser!

Trump will at some point face backlash from the white middle and working class constituency that voted him into office because he wasn’t Hillary Clinton and because of his fake-populist promise that he would represent their interests in the White House. There’s nothing forthcoming for working class families and rural Americans from Trump’s arch-plutocratic agenda of tax-cuts and de-regulation. Many of his backers are going to realize that they were played and that his pledges were nothing but hot air.

What to do? Trump and Bannon are certainly cognizant of two key bits of history. First, they remember George W. Bush’s low-popularity prior to the September 11, 2001 jetliner attacks. Dubya also came into the White House after losing the popular vote. He was also widely understood to be an arrogant and moronic jackass. Then the planes hit the towers and the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania and Bush Junior’s popularity numbers went through the roof. It was an overnight transformation – enough to embolden Bush43 and his neocon handlers to go ahead with their longstanding dream of invading Iraq (despite the curious fact that Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks).

Second, Trump and Bannon certainly recall the roles that the Paris and Sacramento attacks played in boosting his white nationalist paranoid-style candidacy. As Mike Lofgren reminds us in the preface to the paperback edition of his widely-read volume The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government, the nation’s ubiquitous, elite-generated, paranoia-inducing “message of fear about terrorism…helps explain why Trump’s candidacy took off like moon rocket in November and December of 2015, the period of the terrorist attack in Paris and the murders in San Bernardino.” As Lofgren recalled:

“Government officials and corporate media whipped up a mood in the country that approached hysteria. Trump deftly exploited that mood to his advantage. By being the only politicians brazen enough to openly advocate torture – not merely to gain information, but to inflict pain for its own sake – he tapped into the revenge fantasies of millions of Americans who have been fed a steady diet of fear since 9/11…Voters in the Republican primary in South Carolina who handed Trump a walkover victory declared terrorism to be their foremost concern, one that eclipsed a low-wage economy — deteriorating living standards that have led to an actual increase in the death rate of the GOP’s core demographic of late-middle-aged, non-college educated whites; and the most expensive and least available health care in the so-called developed world. So while Trump — a Vietnam-era draft avoider who appeared not even to know what the nuclear triad was — could hardly be considered a product of the national security sector, his demagogic skills and authoritarian demeanor placed him in a far better position than his rivals to exploit the national neurosis created by the war on terror.”

Note the wry look of confidence on Trump’s face even as his promise to repeal Obamacare went up in flames. Maybe he’s got Bannon and others at work producing a great new propaganda film to be released this spring: “ISIS Attacks the Homeland 2017.” I wonder if he’ll be willing to sacrifice one of his Trump buildings to the production.

Whoever gets the job a few rungs down the ladder of plausible deniability is going to have to do better than Kellyanne Microwave Conway’s “Bowling Green Massacre.”

But seriously, you don’t have to be “Truthy” to worry about false flags these strange dystopian days. Noam Chomsky has taken massive abuse from the 9/11 conspiracy crowd for not buying the “Inside Job” storyline on the jetliner assault. He’s a noted and longstanding critic of conspiracy thinking. Listen however to Chomsky’s response to Alternet’s Jan Frel when she recently asked him if Trump’s supporters will turn against the freaky new royal brute in the Oval Office anytime soon:

“I think that sooner or later the white working-class constituency will recognize, and in fact, much of the rural population will come to recognize, that the promises are built on sand. There is nothing there. And then what happens becomes significant. In order to maintain his popularity, the Trump administration will have to try to find some means of rallying the support and changing the discourse from the policies that they are carrying out, which are basically a wrecking ball to something else. Maybe scapegoating, saying, “Well, I’m sorry, I can’t bring your jobs back because these bad people are preventing it.” And the typical scapegoating goes to vulnerable people: immigrants, terrorists, Muslims and elitists, whoever it may be. And that can turn out to be very ugly. I think that we shouldn’t put aside the possibility that there would be some kind of staged or alleged terrorist act, which can change the country instantly.”

It isn’t just that the current historical moment cries out big dog wag. This is a presidency that has merged fact and fiction to a degree that is off the historical scale. One of Trump’s senior counselors, the bizarre Conway, has openly advanced the notion of “alternatives facts.” Trump’s top political advisor Steve Bannon is a noted war geek and has produced films and run a website designed precisely to twist current events in accord with a hard-right white nationalist/fascist agenda. Bannon’s whole life is all about Fake News and Fake History. A dominant narrative in his rich propaganda resume is the notion that Wester Judeo-Christian “civilization” is in a life or death struggle with radical Islam. Now he sits in a high seat on the National Security Council, itching for a pretext to unleash a New Crusades, replete with the use of tactical nuclear weapons and the torture of Islamo-terrorists’ family members.

Besides building both his real estate career and his political rise largely on the manipulation of the news media and on Unreality Television, Trump is addicted to falsification and lies. He is a one-man Fabrication Machine, armed with a “big beautiful Twitter account” that regularly spits out absurd and false charges (“Obama tapped my phones”) and claims (he “won the popular vote”) without the slightest hint of remorse.

The Trump White House’s serial falsifications are straight out of Goebbels, Hitler’s Third Reich propaganda minister. “Repeat a lie a thousand times,” Goebbels said, “and it becomes the truth.” Goebbels used that principle to run his horrific campaign against Jews and he succeeded in the most dreadful way imaginable.

It’s the same idea with Trump’s preposterous assertions that the United States is being ravaged by wild hordes of illegal alien criminals or that climate change is not indisputably the result of human activity. Recite the myth again and again and – like the insane right wing talk radio claim that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were radical Marxists (ask a radical Marxist like me about that!) – it becomes comes a material force in history.

That certainly happened with the Bush administration’s claims that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was linked to al Qaeda and 9/11 and stockpiled with deadly weapons of mass destruction – gigantic deceptions that were disseminated with no small help from the mass media (including no less of a “liberal” outpost than The New York Times) that the right-wing noise machine loves to absurdly and ubiquitously describe as “liberal” and even “left.”

Of course, the White House and its more well-placed “deep state” backers could be egged on to the commissioning of a false flag operation by the Democrats’ own impressive Fake News operation – Russiagate. Maybe the Democrats’ effort to preposterously portray Trump as a Manchurian president under the control of the Kremlin will encourage him to direct his dog-wag at the Russians. What better way to undermine the Russia charges than to engage in a hopefully controlled military conflict with Moscow in Ukraine or Syria?

A real terrorist attack is probably more likely than a “staged or alleged one.” Trump has clearly kept the U.S. imperial military machine set on kill in the Muslim world. His body count already includes some big, mass-murderous, women- and child-killing assaults on civilians in Yemen and Iraq. He’s got U.S. killers on the ground in Syria. He’s only getting started. This and his travel ban and more are certainly inciting Islamo-terrorist cells and fans at home and abroad. And who’s to say that many in and loyal to the current presidency wouldn’t be more than happy to let a major ISIS-like attack occur in a major U.S. city one of these days? They’d figure it would be just the Reichstag Fire they need to make their liberal and left critics shut the Hell up – something Bannon told media operatives to do just five days into the current presidency.

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Trump’s first wife Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that Trump kept a book of Hitler’s speeches near his bed: “Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed … Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist,” Marie Brenner wrote.

Having followed Trump’s speeches and Tweets (at no small cost to my own mental health) over the last few months, I don’t find it at all difficult to believe that Trump was an enthusiastic reader of Hitler’s 1930s speeches.

Truth these days is stranger than dystopian political science fiction (Orwell, Huxley, Bradbury, Philip K. Dick, etc.) in the U.S. Along the way the boundaries between political truth and such fiction have merged to a frightening degree. We may have a short window to undertake a democratic people’s revolution to save social justice, livable ecology, popular governance, and truth itself.

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/3/2017  5:06 PM
Trump sends Jared Kushner to Iraq...Kushner is Trump's point guy on China...What is Tillerson's job again???
martin
Posts: 68920
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
4/3/2017  5:07 PM
holfresh wrote:Trump sends Jared Kushner to Iraq...Kushner is Trump's point guy on China...What is Tillerson's job again???

Russia only

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/3/2017  5:07 PM
martin wrote:
holfresh wrote:Trump sends Jared Kushner to Iraq...Kushner is Trump's point guy on China...What is Tillerson's job again???

Russia only

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/3/2017  8:08 PM
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138
Alba Posts: 15
Joined: 7/12/2010
Member: #3186

4/3/2017  8:47 PM
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-ed-our-dishonest-president/

Our Dishonest President

It was no secret during the campaign that Donald Trump was a narcissist and a demagogue who used fear and dishonesty to appeal to the worst in American voters. The Times called him unprepared and unsuited for the job he was seeking, and said his election would be a “catastrophe.”

Still, nothing prepared us for the magnitude of this train wreck. Like millions of other Americans, we clung to a slim hope that the new president would turn out to be all noise and bluster, or that the people around him in the White House would act as a check on his worst instincts, or that he would be sobered and transformed by the awesome responsibilities of office.

Instead, seventy-some days in — and with about 1,400 to go before his term is completed — it is increasingly clear that those hopes were misplaced.

In a matter of weeks, President Trump has taken dozens of real-life steps that, if they are not reversed, will rip families apart, foul rivers and pollute the air, intensify the calamitous effects of climate change and profoundly weaken the system of American public education for all.

His attempt to de-insure millions of people who had finally received healthcare coverage and, along the way, enact a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich has been put on hold for the moment. But he is proceeding with his efforts to defang the government’s regulatory agencies and bloat the Pentagon’s budget even as he supposedly retreats from the global stage.

“ It is impossible to know where his presidency will lead or how much damage he will do to our nation. ” Share this quote
These are immensely dangerous developments which threaten to weaken this country’s moral standing in the world, imperil the planet and reverse years of slow but steady gains by marginalized or impoverished Americans. But, chilling as they are, these radically wrongheaded policy choices are not, in fact, the most frightening aspect of the Trump presidency.

What is most worrisome about Trump is Trump himself. He is a man so unpredictable, so reckless, so petulant, so full of blind self-regard, so untethered to reality that it is impossible to know where his presidency will lead or how much damage he will do to our nation. His obsession with his own fame, wealth and success, his determination to vanquish enemies real and imagined, his craving for adulation — these traits were, of course, at the very heart of his scorched-earth outsider campaign; indeed, some of them helped get him elected. But in a real presidency in which he wields unimaginable power, they are nothing short of disastrous.

Although his policies are, for the most part, variations on classic Republican positions (many of which would have been undertaken by a President Ted Cruz or a President Marco Rubio), they become far more dangerous in the hands of this imprudent and erratic man. Many Republicans, for instance, support tighter border security and a tougher response to illegal immigration, but Trump’s ****amamie border wall, his impracticable campaign promise to deport all 11 million people living in the country illegally and his blithe disregard for the effect of such proposals on the U.S. relationship with Mexico turn a very bad policy into an appalling one.

In the days ahead, The Times editorial board will look more closely at the new president, with a special attention to three troubling traits:

1Trump’s shocking lack of respect for those fundamental rules and institutions on which our government is based. Since Jan. 20, he has repeatedly disparaged and challenged those entities that have threatened his agenda, stoking public distrust of essential institutions in a way that undermines faith in American democracy. He has questioned the qualifications of judges and the integrity of their decisions, rather than acknowledging that even the president must submit to the rule of law. He has clashed with his own intelligence agencies, demeaned government workers and questioned the credibility of the electoral system and the Federal Reserve. He has lashed out at journalists, declaring them “enemies of the people,” rather than defending the importance of a critical, independent free press. His contempt for the rule of law and the norms of government are palpable.

2His utter lack of regard for truth. Whether it is the easily disprovable boasts about the size of his inauguration crowd or his unsubstantiated assertion that Barack Obama bugged Trump Tower, the new president regularly muddies the waters of fact and fiction. It’s difficult to know whether he actually can’t distinguish the real from the unreal — or whether he intentionally conflates the two to befuddle voters, deflect criticism and undermine the very idea of objective truth. Whatever the explanation, he is encouraging Americans to reject facts, to disrespect science, documents, nonpartisanship and the mainstream media — and instead to simply take positions on the basis of ideology and preconceived notions. This is a recipe for a divided country in which differences grow deeper and rational compromise becomes impossible.

3His scary willingness to repeat alt-right conspiracy theories, racist memes and crackpot, out-of-the-mainstream ideas. Again, it is not clear whether he believes them or merely uses them. But to cling to disproven “alternative” facts; to retweet racists; to make unverifiable or false statements about rigged elections and fraudulent voters; to buy into discredited conspiracy theories first floated on fringe websites and in supermarket tabloids — these are all of a piece with the Barack Obama birther claptrap that Trump was peddling years ago and which brought him to political prominence. It is deeply alarming that a president would lend the credibility of his office to ideas that have been rightly rejected by politicians from both major political parties.

Where will this end? Will Trump moderate his crazier campaign positions as time passes? Or will he provoke confrontation with Iran, North Korea or China, or disobey a judge’s order or order a soldier to violate the Constitution? Or, alternately, will the system itself — the Constitution, the courts, the permanent bureaucracy, the Congress, the Democrats, the marchers in the streets — protect us from him as he alienates more and more allies at home and abroad, steps on his own message and creates chaos at the expense of his ability to accomplish his goals? Already, Trump’s job approval rating has been hovering in the mid-30s, according to Gallup, a shockingly low level of support for a new president. And that was before his former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, offered to cooperate last week with congressional investigators looking into the connection between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

“ Those who oppose the new president’s reckless and heartless agenda must make their voices heard. ” Share this quote
On Inauguration Day, we wrote on this page that it was not yet time to declare a state of “wholesale panic” or to call for blanket “non-cooperation” with the Trump administration. Despite plenty of dispiriting signals, that is still our view. The role of the rational opposition is to stand up for the rule of law, the electoral process, the peaceful transfer of power and the role of institutions; we should not underestimate the resiliency of a system in which laws are greater than individuals and voters are as powerful as presidents. This nation survived Andrew Jackson and Richard Nixon. It survived slavery. It survived devastating wars. Most likely, it will survive again.

But if it is to do so, those who oppose the new president’s reckless and heartless agenda must make their voices heard. Protesters must raise their banners. Voters must turn out for elections. Members of Congress — including and especially Republicans — must find the political courage to stand up to Trump. Courts must safeguard the Constitution. State legislators must pass laws to protect their citizens and their policies from federal meddling. All of us who are in the business of holding leaders accountable must redouble our efforts to defend the truth from his cynical assaults.

The United States is not a perfect country, and it has a great distance to go before it fully achieves its goals of liberty and equality. But preserving what works and defending the rules and values on which democracy depends are a shared responsibility. Everybody has a role to play in this drama.

This is the first in a series.

Marv
Posts: 35540
Alba Posts: 69
Joined: 9/2/2002
Member: #315
4/3/2017  9:28 PM
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
4/3/2017  9:38 PM
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
4/3/2017  9:45 PM
In a stunning turn of events in tonight's Rachel Maddow refrigerate after opening breaking news TRUMP advisor Carter Paige visited Russia
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
4/3/2017  9:47 PM
Visited Russia in 2013 that is
meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/3/2014
Member: #5801

4/3/2017  11:42 PM
BTW - Trump can withdraw money at anytime from his "blind" trust.
What a disgusting hypocrite
I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/4/2017  4:25 PM
Don't look now folks, Republicans are looking at every possible way to raise taxes on individuals to fund their tax cut for corporations...Border adjustment was the first look, now they are talking VAT, consumption tax on gas,carbon tax, etc...Trump is working for you middle America..
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  5:41 PM
I missed this one...

Trump reportedly called his national security adviser at 3 a.m. to ask if the US wanted a strong or weak dollar...

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-called-mike-flynn-about-us-dollar-at-3-am-2017-2

President Donald Trump once called National Security Adviser Mike Flynn at 3 a.m. to ask about the economic impact of a strong US dollar, according to a report from The Huffington Post.

SV Date and Christina Wilke, citing sources with knowledge of the conversation, reported that Trump asked Flynn whether the strong dollar was good or bad for the US economy during the early-morning phone call. According to the sources, Flynn said he was not sure and Trump should ask an economist instead.

The Huffington Post said neither Flynn's office nor the White House responded to its request for confirmation of the call's timing. The White House did not immediately return a request for comment from Business Insider.

Trump and his team have generally said the stronger dollar, which strengthened significantly against other major currencies after the election but has since given back some of its gains, has been a negative for the US economy.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Trump said the strong dollar was "killing us."

"Our companies can't compete" with Chinese companies Trump said, "because our currency is too strong."

Trump's pick for Treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, said in January that while a stronger dollar was generally good for the US because it represented "faith that investors have in doing business in America," the current strength of the dollar could have "negative short-term implications on the economy."

Recently, Trump's team has attacked China and Germany for what it believes are improper tactics to devalue their currencies against the dollar.

A strong dollar is generally good for American consumers because it makes it cheaper for people to buy foreign-made products, but it can also hurt US-based producers that export their goods, which become more expensive in other countries.

The US dollar index is little changed on Wednesday, higher by 0.3% at 100.50.

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  5:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/4/2017  5:44 PM
^^^^What's alarming about this is that he has been spouting off about China's currency manipulation since the campaign...This is an admission that he doesn't know what it means...

It's also alarming he didn't call an economist but a military guy...But hey...
reub
Posts: 21836
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/13/2016
Member: #6227

4/4/2017  6:05 PM
"Susan Rice Refuses to Deny Trump ‘Unmasking’ Requests — Despite Claiming Ignorance Just Weeks Ago"

"Susan Rice defiant amid growing calls for her to testify under oath"

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  6:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/4/2017  6:39 PM
reub wrote:"Susan Rice Refuses to Deny Trump ‘Unmasking’ Requests — Despite Claiming Ignorance Just Weeks Ago"

"Susan Rice defiant amid growing calls for her to testify under oath"

Do you understand the details of the case??..Do you know it's her job do unmasking the persons talking to the Russian agent??..Do you also know they have no idea who reported Flynn to the reporter??..Do you know when she unmarsked someone she passes it along to senior intelligence agents and anyone could have done the unmasking thereafter??..Do you care Trump and his Administration coverup dealings with Russia??

holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  6:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/4/2017  7:39 PM
Trump said Syria latest chemical attacks in civilians is because the Obama Administration was weak...Let's see how he responds to Syria and Putin..
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081

4/4/2017  7:38 PM
Israel building new settlements in the West Bank..First in the last 20 years..They must recognize Trump is in over his head...He might need to call Flynn to find out if it's good or bad..
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
4/4/2017  8:24 PM
nixluva wrote:Rep. Nunes just proved how craven and partisan the Republicans are! They're so bad at the job of governing! To just go to Prez Trump with some intelligence info without first taking it to the Intelligence Committee and then going to the PRESS with vague information is unbelievable.

This guy is a Trump Acolyte and is just trying to give Trump cover for his lies.

Right Nix.

OT: Politics Thread

©2001-2012 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy