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3/23/2017  9:10 PM
Trump Ultimatum: Vote on Health Care Friday or Obamacare Stays

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/amp/scheduled-health-care-vote-looms-house-gop-remains-short-support-n737491

Love it. He's so out of his weight class. Totally exposed.

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3/24/2017  7:28 AM
Republicans are clueless when it comes to governing...I'm really surprised with all the rhetoric of the last 8 years they would a game plan on what needs to be done..But everything they seem to do, is in haste and to benefit the few...The invasion of Iraq was done without thought..Bush wars, military spending, tax cut, and repatriation, and done without thought...19 trillion of our debt is due to the last recession and Bush tax cuts..They are completely clueless..

Their only game plan is to dismantle what ever Democrats have done on healthcare and the environment, cut taxes for the rich..The have no plan for governing..
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3/24/2017  9:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/24/2017  9:45 AM
So after healthcare, business tax cut will be the focus..Why are businesses slated to pay a lower tax rate than me???..Why should Apple Inc. pay a lower rate than me??
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3/24/2017  12:13 PM
holfresh wrote:So after healthcare, business tax cut will be the focus..Why are businesses slated to pay a lower tax rate than me???..Why should Apple Inc. pay a lower rate than me??

If you spent more time bribing politicians and offering them jobs, and less time complaining about them, maybe they would give you some tax cuts too

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3/24/2017  12:20 PM
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:So after healthcare, business tax cut will be the focus..Why are businesses slated to pay a lower tax rate than me???..Why should Apple Inc. pay a lower rate than me??

If you spent more time bribing politicians and offering them jobs, and less time complaining about them, maybe they would give you some tax cuts too

Corporations are people, my friend!

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3/24/2017  1:30 PM
The Party of all male deciding Healthcare for America..



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3/24/2017  2:18 PM
holfresh wrote:The Party of all male deciding Healthcare for America..



Looking at the demographics they seem to have replaced women with bald men

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3/24/2017  3:14 PM
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:The Party of all male deciding Healthcare for America..



Looking at the demographics they seem to have replaced women with bald men

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3/24/2017  3:14 PM
Flynn and Turkish official discussed removing Erdogan foe from US, says ex-CIA director...-WSJ
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3/24/2017  3:38 PM
Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...
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3/24/2017  3:57 PM
Well seems like the talk is that they need to repeal Obamacare to pay for corporate tax cuts, so healthcare is still on the table...
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holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

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3/24/2017  4:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/24/2017  4:07 PM
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holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

It's just amazing that these guys would kick people off healthcare to spin a tax cut for the rich...Where is the humanity..How many yachts can they waterski behind...And the rural poor are complicit..

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holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

It's just amazing that these guys would kick people off healthcare to spin a tax cut for the rich...Where is the humanity..How many yachts can they waterski behind...And the rural poor are complicit..

Exactly- everyone can be a d*** at times, but at the end of the day most of us stop when people are going to get hurt. Politics tends to attract people who are on the psychopathic and sociopathic spectrum- very low to non existent empathy, obsession with having power over others etc, which is why some of them are fine pushing his measure through.

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3/24/2017  4:18 PM
I wonder if Trump is tired of taking L's to the FACE yet???
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3/24/2017  4:23 PM
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

Basic humanity merely benefited by accident from ugly local politics.

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3/24/2017  4:28 PM
nixluva wrote:I wonder if Trump is tired of taking L's to the FACE yet???

Wonder what nonsense he'll spurt out to cover it up/distract- that seems to be his strategy

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3/24/2017  4:33 PM
‘Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane.’- MLK
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3/24/2017  4:38 PM
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

It's just amazing that these guys would kick people off healthcare to spin a tax cut for the rich...Where is the humanity..How many yachts can they waterski behind...And the rural poor are complicit..

Exactly- everyone can be a d*** at times, but at the end of the day most of us stop when people are going to get hurt. Politics tends to attract people who are on the psychopathic and sociopathic spectrum- very low to non existent empathy, obsession with having power over others etc, which is why some of them are fine pushing his measure through.

Here are the three traits of psychopathy, does it describe anyone we know?

Boldness. Low fear including stress-tolerance, toleration of unfamiliarity and danger, and high self-confidence and social assertiveness. The PCL-R measures this relatively poorly and mainly through Facet 1 of Factor 1. Similar to PPI Fearless dominance. May correspond to differences in the amygdala and other neurological systems associated with fear.[1][2] Psychopaths are notorious for their lack of fear.[13]

Disinhibition. Poor impulse control including problems with planning and foresight, lacking affect and urge control, demand for immediate gratification, and poor behavioral restraints. Similar to PCL-R Factor 2 and PPI Impulsive antisociality. May correspond to impairments in frontal lobe systems that are involved in such control.[1][2]

Meanness. Lacking empathy and close attachments with others, disdain of close attachments, use of cruelty to gain empowerment, exploitative tendencies, defiance of authority, and destructive excitement seeking. The PCL-R in general is related to this but in particular some elements in Factor 1. Similar to PPI Coldheartedness but also includes elements of subscales in Impulsive antisociality

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3/24/2017  4:42 PM
smackeddog wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
holfresh wrote:Ryan news conference @ 4:00pm...Trump asked him to pull the healthcare bill...

Ha ha! A great relief for those who would have lost their health care coverage and suffered or died. Glad basic humanity has won out

It's just amazing that these guys would kick people off healthcare to spin a tax cut for the rich...Where is the humanity..How many yachts can they waterski behind...And the rural poor are complicit..

Exactly- everyone can be a d*** at times, but at the end of the day most of us stop when people are going to get hurt. Politics tends to attract people who are on the psychopathic and sociopathic spectrum- very low to non existent empathy, obsession with having power over others etc, which is why some of them are fine pushing his measure through.

Here are the three traits of psychopathy, does it describe anyone we know?

Boldness. Low fear including stress-tolerance, toleration of unfamiliarity and danger, and high self-confidence and social assertiveness. The PCL-R measures this relatively poorly and mainly through Facet 1 of Factor 1. Similar to PPI Fearless dominance. May correspond to differences in the amygdala and other neurological systems associated with fear.[1][2] Psychopaths are notorious for their lack of fear.[13]

Disinhibition. Poor impulse control including problems with planning and foresight, lacking affect and urge control, demand for immediate gratification, and poor behavioral restraints. Similar to PCL-R Factor 2 and PPI Impulsive antisociality. May correspond to impairments in frontal lobe systems that are involved in such control.[1][2]

Meanness. Lacking empathy and close attachments with others, disdain of close attachments, use of cruelty to gain empowerment, exploitative tendencies, defiance of authority, and destructive excitement seeking. The PCL-R in general is related to this but in particular some elements in Factor 1. Similar to PPI Coldheartedness but also includes elements of subscales in Impulsive antisociality

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Hs supporters would call that a mere technicality...

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