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3/15/2017  1:34 PM
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

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3/15/2017  2:16 PM
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

Evidence like the one you are suggesting just doesn't fall out of the sky like you are suggesting, and the Dems have not been riding this story for a year. But there has been too many leads that are becoming too questionable to be coincidental; every day and every week something else drops.

And let's make this clear: Trump could end this whole storyline by making his tax return readily available to everyone, a standard by which every other President held themselves to, and they did it for the benefit of our country, to show transparency and an indirect oath to put country before their own financial interests. Trump has not.

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3/15/2017  3:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2017  3:51 PM
Why would Chump change the fuel standards from 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025 set by Obama??..Doesn't he want to help the average citizen buy cars built with better gas milage? Less pollution?? Cut auto pollution in half in 8 years?? No??
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3/15/2017  4:05 PM
martin wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

Evidence like the one you are suggesting just doesn't fall out of the sky like you are suggesting, and the Dems have not been riding this story for a year. But there has been too many leads that are becoming too questionable to be coincidental; every day and every week something else drops.

And let's make this clear: Trump could end this whole storyline by making his tax return readily available to everyone, a standard by which every other President held themselves to, and they did it for the benefit of our country, to show transparency and an indirect oath to put country before their own financial interests. Trump has not.

This would never end with him disclosing his tax returns, it's gone so far beyond that...

I just don't think he's going to appease anyone by releasing that information and why would he? So the left can critique his use of tax exemptions, as though they don't have enough to piss and moan over. He's screwed either way at this point.

As far as the evidence, come on already... The FBI said back in Feb that there were no clear ties to Russia, going back 5-6 months. If you're not sold, keep digging.

Look how excited you guys were, a few pages back- just thinking his tax info would expose something. It's been the SOS with this group. Media trips over themselves reporting on Russia and suddenly Trump was seen wearing a Dolph Lundgren shirt at a Rocky movie. He put ketchup on his steak and probably didn't wipe front to back. What else is new...

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3/15/2017  4:10 PM
gr33d wrote:
martin wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

Evidence like the one you are suggesting just doesn't fall out of the sky like you are suggesting, and the Dems have not been riding this story for a year. But there has been too many leads that are becoming too questionable to be coincidental; every day and every week something else drops.

And let's make this clear: Trump could end this whole storyline by making his tax return readily available to everyone, a standard by which every other President held themselves to, and they did it for the benefit of our country, to show transparency and an indirect oath to put country before their own financial interests. Trump has not.

This would never end with him disclosing his tax returns, it's gone so far beyond that...

I just don't think he's going to appease anyone by releasing that information and why would he? So the left can critique his use of tax exemptions, as though they don't have enough to piss and moan over. He's screwed either way at this point.

As far as the evidence, come on already... The FBI said back in Feb that there were no clear ties to Russia, going back 5-6 months. If you're not sold, keep digging.

Look how excited you guys were, a few pages back- just thinking his tax info would expose something. It's been the SOS with this group. Media trips over themselves reporting on Russia and suddenly Trump was seen wearing a Dolph Lundgren shirt at a Rocky movie. He put ketchup on his steak and probably didn't wipe front to back. What else is new...

That's your opinion and it ends with only you as to who wouldn't be appeased. It would be for the benefit of the country to reveal his financial ties and that's not even up for debate.

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3/15/2017  4:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2017  4:32 PM
gr33d wrote:
martin wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

Evidence like the one you are suggesting just doesn't fall out of the sky like you are suggesting, and the Dems have not been riding this story for a year. But there has been too many leads that are becoming too questionable to be coincidental; every day and every week something else drops.

And let's make this clear: Trump could end this whole storyline by making his tax return readily available to everyone, a standard by which every other President held themselves to, and they did it for the benefit of our country, to show transparency and an indirect oath to put country before their own financial interests. Trump has not.

This would never end with him disclosing his tax returns, it's gone so far beyond that...

I just don't think he's going to appease anyone by releasing that information and why would he? So the left can critique his use of tax exemptions, as though they don't have enough to piss and moan over. He's screwed either way at this point.

As far as the evidence, come on already... The FBI said back in Feb that there were no clear ties to Russia, going back 5-6 months. If you're not sold, keep digging.

Look how excited you guys were, a few pages back- just thinking his tax info would expose something. It's been the SOS with this group. Media trips over themselves reporting on Russia and suddenly Trump was seen wearing a Dolph Lundgren shirt at a Rocky movie. He put ketchup on his steak and probably didn't wipe front to back. What else is new...


Well it's not like we don't have reason to think he is crooked..He paid 25 mil in fines for bilking people out of Trump University money just before the inauguration..He bribed an Attorney General...He used Trump Foundation as his personal piggy bank...So he isn't the most trustworthy individual and to allay people's fear about his business background and future dealings is a bridge too far??...OK...
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3/15/2017  10:03 PM
Travel ban blocked again...
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3/15/2017  10:22 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Look at the smugness oozing from her ugly face^^^^^^^

you ever say that about a man or only just women?
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3/15/2017  10:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2017  10:25 PM
trump at his rally talking about hillary. he has to keep bringing up the past b/c he has no present or future. all his plans are not passing. and if his medical bill gets passed then it will end his 2020 run. but then he will just blame paul ryan even the health care plan is his and his only.
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3/15/2017  10:28 PM
House "Republicans" say they enough votes to "block" TrumpCare/RyanCare..
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the connections to his treason are all there - unfortunately, it looks like the only proof will be via full tax returns or something someone has somewhere but has yet to see light. we may not see it through his whole term. but it's there. he's a crook and he conned 40 something million americans b/c alot of white folks went with their gut and believed non-whites were a problem.

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/march4/obama-moral-credentials-favor-whites-030409.html

Backing Obama gives some voters license to favor whites over blacks, study shows
BY ADAM GORLICK

The election of Barack Obama was as much a milestone in civil rights history as it was a political event. In newspaper columns and crowded bars, around university campuses and family dinner tables, people have hailed the election of the first black president as proof of progress in the country's reckoning with race.

Now some Stanford psychologists are focusing on an irony they've found at the expense of those widespread feelings of racial harmony. In three experiments conducted before the November election, they found that expressing support for Obama makes some people feel justified in favoring whites over blacks.

"This is the psychological equivalent of when people in casual conversation say something like 'many of my best friends are black,'" said Daniel Effron, who conducted the studies with fellow graduate student Jessica Cameron and Benoît Monin, an associate professor of psychology. Their findings are slated for publication in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology.

"They say that because they're about to say something else that they're concerned might be construed as prejudiced," Effron said.

Those people are trying to build what the psychologists call "moral credentials"—the license they feel is needed to express their true feelings about race that may upset or offend others.

In two studies that yielded the same results, participants were asked if they would hire a black or white officer to work in a police department with a history of racial tension.

The researchers expected the scenario to make people squirm. They figured many would be tempted to say the job is better suited for the white candidate—either because they might feel the black candidate would be uncomfortable working with racist officers, or because they harbored negative attitudes toward blacks.

"But they'd be uncomfortable saying the job is better suited for a white person than a black person because that could be construed as being prejudiced," Effron said.

So the participants—most of whom were white or Asian, and all of whom supported Obama—were divided into two groups. One group was allowed to openly endorse Obama; the other wasn't.

Those who could not express their support before making a hiring decision tended to play it safe by saying the job would be equally suited for either whites or blacks. But those who were allowed to pick up moral credentials by showing they endorsed Obama were more likely to say the white officer was a significantly better choice for the job.

Another test explored how moral credentials influenced people who harbored some prejudice toward blacks. Using the Modern Racism Scale, which gauges people's racial attitudes, the psychologists were able to identify participants who supported Obama despite having some negative feelings about blacks.

"None of them were Jim Crow racists," Effron said. "But some had more negative attitudes than others."

The participants assumed the roles of voters being asked to give local government money to two private organizations. One organization served a black community; the other, a white one. They were also told the black community group had already received money from another source.

The test subjects—who were again mostly white or Asian Obama supporters who also backed John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election—were split into two groups. One group was allowed to show their support only for Kerry; the other was allowed to express support only for Obama.

When participants with more negative attitudes toward blacks could establish moral credentials by saying they backed Obama, they allotted more money to the white organization than those who could only endorse Kerry. Those who rated lower on the Modern Racism Scale tended to give more money to the black organization after endorsing Obama.

"Our results suggest that people with more positive attitudes toward blacks are less likely to seize on moral credentials as an excuse to favor whites," Effron said. "It's encouraging to know that endorsing Obama will not always result in the expression of views that are unfavorable to blacks. It's only when moral credentials combine with negative racial attitudes that we have cause for concern."

The findings leave Effron and his colleagues with two takes on how Obama's election influences how people talk about race.

"On one hand, there's concern that people may use their support for Obama as a pass, or license, to express views that are harmful to African Americans," Effron said. "But to the extent that expressing support for Obama reduces concerns about being perceived as prejudiced, it could also lead to the kind of open discussions about race that the president himself has encouraged."

i think you folks are educated and i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. i don't think you were hustled voting for trump. but if you weren't hustled...and i may catch some hate here...and i may get suspended but imho, if you weren't hustled then voting for trump and this administration makes you a racist and a sexist whether you choose to believe it or not. you are...as snl would say...complicit. you can try and convince yourself youre not b/c you got black friends or don't call your wife a bitch or beat her but trump and his message resonated with you at your core...and that's a true reflection of what you really are at your core.

that's the only logical explanation. the only other explanation is that your dumb as sh t and got hustled.

i've met some of you. and some of you helped me greatly (briggs). so saying that brings me no joy but that's just how i feel and i don't really feel like holding back any punches. you all voted for an absolute imbecile that threatens our country and has brought out and exposed the worst of this country. we are seeing racists come out of their closet. it's a f cking disgrace and i blame trump voters for this 100%.

policies are policies but you all didn't vote on policies...you voted on the wall, getting rid of mulsims, hillary's a crook and obama was terrible. those aren't policies...those are racist sentiments.
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3/15/2017  10:45 PM
gr33d wrote:
martin wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gr33d wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think the best way to put it is
It was an EPIC FAILURE rotflmmfn'ao

The guy you support behaves like he has something to hide and you are celebrating it hasn't been found...He could owe Russia a gazillion dollars and you don't care if he hands them America as payback...Celebrate...

Kushner is about to sell China a Hotel next to our naval shipyard so they can spy on our Navy subs...Our government blocked the sale a few years back because of national security interest...Think Trump will block it???Keep chucking...

Speaking of something to hide... Did we ever come up with those 33k e-mails yet?

Allow me to pre-empt, but who cares about Benghazi and Hillary's emails when Putin has his hand up Trump's arse who will sing like a puppet...

Russia, China and back to Russia again... So apparently Trump works for every government, but his own.

Can we just skip the trendy headlines and go right to the part where evidence is finally produced? If Trump has broken the law or has any type of significant financial ties to Russia, wouldn't we probably know about it by now? Dems have only been riding this story for like a year now... Surely the wiretaps had to provide some vital information lol.

Evidence like the one you are suggesting just doesn't fall out of the sky like you are suggesting, and the Dems have not been riding this story for a year. But there has been too many leads that are becoming too questionable to be coincidental; every day and every week something else drops.

And let's make this clear: Trump could end this whole storyline by making his tax return readily available to everyone, a standard by which every other President held themselves to, and they did it for the benefit of our country, to show transparency and an indirect oath to put country before their own financial interests. Trump has not.

This would never end with him disclosing his tax returns, it's gone so far beyond that...

I just don't think he's going to appease anyone by releasing that information and why would he? So the left can critique his use of tax exemptions, as though they don't have enough to piss and moan over. He's screwed either way at this point.

As far as the evidence, come on already... The FBI said back in Feb that there were no clear ties to Russia, going back 5-6 months. If you're not sold, keep digging.

Look how excited you guys were, a few pages back- just thinking his tax info would expose something. It's been the SOS with this group. Media trips over themselves reporting on Russia and suddenly Trump was seen wearing a Dolph Lundgren shirt at a Rocky movie. He put ketchup on his steak and probably didn't wipe front to back. What else is new...

Exactly why he will never release them.
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Here is why you look like an idiot. Same with gr33d.

Talk policy. Talk about decreasing size of gov, talk about the trade deals. Talk about how he will improve health insurance. Talk about how his role in gov will stimulate the economy. But no.. instead you choose to defend Trump which makes you guys idiots. I voted for Bill Clinton and I can defend the good job he did. However he behaived like a scumbag and you will not see me defend that. See the difference? You guys are focused on standing behind your guy with some kind of junkie pride. Your guy is a scumbag. Your guy is a proven liar. Your guy is making his supporters like like idiots... case in point. When he lies its fake news. He is truly unamerican. An old school throwback to the robber barons.

I have followed politics during Clinton, Bush and Obama. In those 24 years has a judge overturned one of their executive orders? Just curious...

Appointed an EPA head who doesnt believe in global warming.
Appointed a Secretary of State from big oil.
White nationalists in key positions.

I suppose when their healthcare plan is a bigly disaster is will be Obama's fault right?

Love how the trumpets gloss over details and can always fall back on "we won and your bitter."

Conservative values are very important for this country. That entire party has sold their soul because they found a pony that could a race. Sad!

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3/16/2017  9:21 AM
holfresh wrote:Travel ban blocked again...

msg or white house...which is the bigger circus

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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djsunyc wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Look at the smugness oozing from her ugly face^^^^^^^

you ever say that about a man or only just women?


glad you caught this...screaming sexism. says all i need to know about "fair and balanced" @ guns :)
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Cartman718 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Travel ban blocked again...

msg or white house...which is the bigger circus


MSG no question...
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3/16/2017  11:04 AM
As Trump as the White House try to distance themselves from the GOP Healthcare bill, Paul Ryan does a massive bear hug with Trump...Ryan says Trump helped write the bill as Spicer says it's Ryan's bill...Hilarious!!!
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Ryan on again this morning saying Trump brought everyone together to get the bill done...Trump was trying to duck the bill saying it's Ryan's bill..Hilarious...
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Ryan does a bear hug with the White House and his Healthcare bill...Gotta love politics..
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