martin wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

so all of the above is unsubstantiated or just made up. Here's a better list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/one-month-report-card.html?ref=opinion

Told a stunning and easily disproved lie on his first full day in power. He then sent his spokesman out to repeat that lie, and said the press would “pay a big price” for refusing to do the same. The pattern of taxpayer-financed mendacity continued nearly every day under the new regime, with lies about everything from the murder rate to the weather.

Threatened to “defund” the most populous state in the nation he governs, California, the world’s sixth- largest economy, which contributes more than $350 billion in annual tax money to the federal government. “California is, in many ways, out of control,” he said.

Insisted, with no evidence, that three to five million people had voted illegally — which, if true, would constitute a huge crime, and one of the biggest election scandals ever. When pressed, a top counselor coined a term that came to define the new administration: “alternative facts.”

Told the Mexican president that he might send the world’s most powerful military across the border to take care of some “bad hombres,” prompting the cancellation of a planned meeting. Hung up on the leader of a nation, Australia, that has long been one of the United States’ most reliable allies.

Created chaos at airports around the world and leading universities and companies at home with the stroke of a pen. His ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries broke apart families, stranded doctors and scholars, and prompted an early constitutional crisis. When his executive order was halted by a court, he attacked the independent judiciary, calling the Republican-appointed judge who challenged him “a so-called judge.” He said blood would be on the hands of courts that had defied him.

Sent his 31-year-old senior adviser, Stephen Miller, out on the Sunday talk shows to further threaten judicial authority. “The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned,” Miller said.

Insulted one of the nation’s most revered civil rights heroes on the eve of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, calling Representative John Lewis “all talk, talk, talk — no action or results,” and defaming the congressman’s city of Atlanta as a crime-ridden hellhole. He used the holiday itself to brag about his Electoral College victory and bash the press.

Attacked a major American retailer, Nordstrom, for dropping a failing clothing line of his daughter’s. His top counselor, Kellyanne Conway, used her White House position to urge people to buy these same products from her boss’s daughter.

Installed as national security adviser Michael Flynn, a man who had taken Russian propaganda money and spoke, back-channel, to the ambassador of a nation that tried to disrupt the American election. The vice president lied to the public about this because he was not informed of it.

Suggested there was moral equivalence between state-sanctioned killings by Russia and actions of the United States. Not long afterward, Russia deployed a new cruise missile in violation of a treaty with the United States and moved a spy ship just off the coast of this country.

Prompted a top-ranked American general to wonder whether his own government was “stable,” a leading Republican senator to say the administration was “dysfunctional” and a respected psychiatrist to express concern about the president’s “grave emotional instability.”

Turned his resort in Florida into an open-air situation room, potentially exposing national security secrets to enemies and social media chuckleheads. “Holy moly!” posted a witness who watched it unfold.

Responded to general criticism, as well as questions about the rise of anti-Semitic acts, with a boast about his Electoral College win. “I comprehend very well, O.K.? Better than, I think, almost anybody.”

Tried to install as labor secretary someone who violated labor laws, wants to replace workers with robots and doesn’t believe burger-flippers have the right to a living wage. In announcing a new pick, after the first nominee withdrew, the president bragged about his Electoral College win.

You slap yourself. You douse your head with water. The incompetence, the leaking, the daily indignities. What country is this? Is this behavior normalized? There’s more.
As the first month was coming to a close, he held a news conference and bragged about his Electoral College win while lying about the margin’s place in history. His administration, he said, is a smooth-running machine. “There’s zero chaos.” He spent the majority of his time ranting about the press, then predicted the response: “Tomorrow, they’ll be saying, ‘Donald Trump rants and raves at the press.’ I’m not ranting and raving.”

Oh, the libtards at the NYT. Perhaps for sake of objectivity , they can write a article about how the lib Facebook,Google and Biuffet avoid taxes since that was part of their smear campaign as well. Trump is zany, left is so full of hypocrisy

meloanyk wrote:Other than the jobs already saved or now planned? They haven't yet but they will be as economic activity picks up. Optimism is surging and money is finally moving, co ask the same question six months hence, hopefully some here are skilled or educated enough to max.

Jobs already planned but Trump used it for a photo op and those companies used it for a short term stock bump..A win win for the untrained eye..

What you could also be describing is irrational exuberance..

meloanyk wrote:

martin wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

so all of the above is unsubstantiated or just made up. Here's a better list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/one-month-report-card.html?ref=opinion

Told a stunning and easily disproved lie on his first full day in power. He then sent his spokesman out to repeat that lie, and said the press would “pay a big price” for refusing to do the same. The pattern of taxpayer-financed mendacity continued nearly every day under the new regime, with lies about everything from the murder rate to the weather.

Threatened to “defund” the most populous state in the nation he governs, California, the world’s sixth- largest economy, which contributes more than $350 billion in annual tax money to the federal government. “California is, in many ways, out of control,” he said.

Insisted, with no evidence, that three to five million people had voted illegally — which, if true, would constitute a huge crime, and one of the biggest election scandals ever. When pressed, a top counselor coined a term that came to define the new administration: “alternative facts.”

Told the Mexican president that he might send the world’s most powerful military across the border to take care of some “bad hombres,” prompting the cancellation of a planned meeting. Hung up on the leader of a nation, Australia, that has long been one of the United States’ most reliable allies.

Created chaos at airports around the world and leading universities and companies at home with the stroke of a pen. His ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries broke apart families, stranded doctors and scholars, and prompted an early constitutional crisis. When his executive order was halted by a court, he attacked the independent judiciary, calling the Republican-appointed judge who challenged him “a so-called judge.” He said blood would be on the hands of courts that had defied him.

Sent his 31-year-old senior adviser, Stephen Miller, out on the Sunday talk shows to further threaten judicial authority. “The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned,” Miller said.

Insulted one of the nation’s most revered civil rights heroes on the eve of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, calling Representative John Lewis “all talk, talk, talk — no action or results,” and defaming the congressman’s city of Atlanta as a crime-ridden hellhole. He used the holiday itself to brag about his Electoral College victory and bash the press.

Attacked a major American retailer, Nordstrom, for dropping a failing clothing line of his daughter’s. His top counselor, Kellyanne Conway, used her White House position to urge people to buy these same products from her boss’s daughter.

Installed as national security adviser Michael Flynn, a man who had taken Russian propaganda money and spoke, back-channel, to the ambassador of a nation that tried to disrupt the American election. The vice president lied to the public about this because he was not informed of it.

Suggested there was moral equivalence between state-sanctioned killings by Russia and actions of the United States. Not long afterward, Russia deployed a new cruise missile in violation of a treaty with the United States and moved a spy ship just off the coast of this country.

Prompted a top-ranked American general to wonder whether his own government was “stable,” a leading Republican senator to say the administration was “dysfunctional” and a respected psychiatrist to express concern about the president’s “grave emotional instability.”

Turned his resort in Florida into an open-air situation room, potentially exposing national security secrets to enemies and social media chuckleheads. “Holy moly!” posted a witness who watched it unfold.

Responded to general criticism, as well as questions about the rise of anti-Semitic acts, with a boast about his Electoral College win. “I comprehend very well, O.K.? Better than, I think, almost anybody.”

Tried to install as labor secretary someone who violated labor laws, wants to replace workers with robots and doesn’t believe burger-flippers have the right to a living wage. In announcing a new pick, after the first nominee withdrew, the president bragged about his Electoral College win.

You slap yourself. You douse your head with water. The incompetence, the leaking, the daily indignities. What country is this? Is this behavior normalized? There’s more.
As the first month was coming to a close, he held a news conference and bragged about his Electoral College win while lying about the margin’s place in history. His administration, he said, is a smooth-running machine. “There’s zero chaos.” He spent the majority of his time ranting about the press, then predicted the response: “Tomorrow, they’ll be saying, ‘Donald Trump rants and raves at the press.’ I’m not ranting and raving.”

Oh, the libtards at the NYT. Perhaps for sake of objectivity , they can write a article about how the lib Facebook,Google and Biuffet avoid taxes since that was part of their smear campaign as well. Trump is zany, left is so full of hypocrisy

if you'd like to add anything substantial that would take away anything from the above, please do. Otherwise, you've added NOTHING again, just blather

TRUMPGLISH.....must read

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Rex Huppke
Important thoughts from my fingers
News Opinion Rex Huppke
Column: Translating Trump's words into English
Trump press conference: Fake news

President Donald Trump called the news media, in general, "fake" roughly 20 times during his 90-minute news conference.
Rex Huppke Rex HuppkeContact Reporter
If you watched President Donald Trump's most recent news conference, you may have reached a point midway through when you thought: "That's strange, I don't recall buying a one-way ticket to Crazytown."

Don't be alarmed. That's a perfectly normal reaction, as most Americans are what I call "Trump-illiterate." They hear words coming out of the president's mouth but have no clue what those words actually mean.

For example, during his Thursday news conference, Trump talked about leaks coming from the intelligence community, saying, "The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake."

Saying that a thing is real but reports about that thing are fake might seem like a logical fallacy. It's not, and Trump would call you very dumb for thinking such a thing. (That wouldn't be an insult. In Trumpglish, "very dumb" translates to "I'm frustrated because you're asking something I don't want to answer.")

The rough Trumpglish-to-English translation of "The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake" is: "The leaks are absolutely real, which sucks. The news is also real, but I'm not going to admit it ever, ever, ever, ever."

Having majored in Trumpglish at Trump University, I'm happy to help my fellow citizens adapt to this new and wildly predictable language.

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Here, then, is a list of commonly used Trumpglish words and phrases followed by their English translation.

Bad: Generally means "good," particularly when applied to something good that Trump considers bad.

Good: Not good at all. Trumpglish synonyms of this word include "the best," "the greatest," "spectacular," "amazing" and "so amazing."

Fake news: Real news that makes Trump look bad.

Dishonest media: Any media person or outlet reporting news that makes Trump look bad.

Honest reporter: Sean Hannity.

Fine-tuned machine: Complete and utter Dumpster fire.

The biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan: My margin of victory ranked 46th out of 58 U.S. presidential elections.

The failing New York Times: The newspaper that has seen subscriptions soar since Trump was elected president.

I am the least anti-Semitic person that you've ever seen in your entire life: I am a 70-year-old man who doesn't understand what anti-Semitism means, and I have curried favor with white nationalists who know exactly what anti-Semitism means.

I am the least racist person: I am a 70-year-old man who doesn't understand what racism means, and I've been using this line my entire life because it makes me feel better about myself.

Real Americans: People who voted for me and believe everything I say, even when I say things that make no sense, like: "The leaks are real. The news is fake."

Sad: Factual.

Lies: Truth.

I'm sorry: (Definition not available as these words have never been spoken.)

Russians: Pals.

Putin: Best. Pal. Ever.

Leaks: Bad if they involve Trump, good if they involve anyone else.

Inner City: The mysterious place where Trump believes all black people live.

A great wall: A pipe dream.

I'll be in Melbourne, Fla., five o'clock on Saturday and I heard — just heard that the crowds are massive that want to be there: I'm a transparently fragile man who was not hugged enough as a child, and I desperately need to believe that I am loved and powerful.

We're doing very well: This is hard and everything's falling apart, please impeach me so I can go back to television.

Thank you: I hate you.

Listen to Rex Huppke and WGN radio host Amy Guth discuss presidential politics each week on the "Guth and Huppke on Politics" podcast at chicagotribune.com/guthhuppkepodcast.

rhuppke@chicagotribune.com

smackeddog wrote:When Trump says he is the least racist and anti-semitic person in existence, or that "drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars", or that "the leaks are real but the news is fake", do his supporters think that he's:

a) being honest and telling the truth,
b) lying
c) he genuinely believes that what he's saying is true (in which case he's deluded)?
d) He's a grade 'A' moron

meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

Right Fake News incorporates all of that. The media outlets that have been around since the dawn of time can't afford to spread fake news like but they can manipulate headlines and what they focus on. Ignoring the facts that harm their agenda and instead in a disoriented way focus on irrelevant issues that only distract their gullible viewer. The worst are the ones who like they are fair and balanced. They along with all the unelected officials are pulling all stops to win in 4yrs. However, they should've learned from this past election the American public isn't buying it. By that I mean All
Of America not just NY/California.

We share the same take on immigration

fishmike wrote:Nix.. its sooooo funny, it really is. Trump dogged Obama about his birth cert for years. Now 2 months in and Trump and his supporters cry because he's not getting "a fair chance."

They aren't crying. The person they voted for won and will win again because they cannot be deceived

smackeddog wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

holfresh wrote:

meloanyk wrote:Other than the jobs already saved or now planned? They haven't yet but they will be as economic activity picks up. Optimism is surging and money is finally moving, co ask the same question six months hence, hopefully some here are skilled or educated enough to max.

Jobs already planned but Trump used it for a photo op and those companies used it for a short term stock bump..A win win for the untrained eye..

What you could also be describing is irrational exuberance..

The smart people quickly bought the drop and have stayed with it despite all the fear mongering. They understood what the change meant

You sound exactly like Trump, no wonder he appeals to you- he reminds you of yourself.

Better to sound like him and Trump then the way the rest of you have sounded since your golden girl lost

gunsnewing wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

Right Fake News incorporates all of that. The media outlets that have been around since the dawn of time can't afford to spread fake news like but they can manipulate headlines and what they focus on. Ignoring the facts that harm their agenda and instead in a disoriented way focus on irrelevant issues that only distract their gullible viewer. The worst are the ones who like they are fair and balanced. They along with all the unelected officials are pulling all stops to win in 4yrs. However, they should've learned from this past election the American public isn't buying it. By that I mean All
Of America not just NY/California.

We share the same take on immigration

You go on about fake news, but you never answer- does Donald Trump tell the truth? Do you believe him when he blatantly lies? Take his most recent rally- he claims the judges who ruled against him were all picked by Obama, when actually 2 of 3 were picked by Carter and Bush Jr. Do you still believe him? Explain why he said it if it wasn't true (or do you think he's deluded, or just an idiot).

When he says the Dems losing the presidential election was “the greatest defeat in the history of the country”, do you think thats true? Or that Trump believes it, and if so that he's deluded or an idiot?

When he says: “I promise you that the White House is running so smoothly,”- do you think thats true? Or that Trump believes it, and if so that he's deluded or an idiot?

When he says: the US knows “nothing” about refugees and visa-holders it has admitted into the country- do you think thats true? Or that Trump believes it, and if so that he's deluded or an idiot?

When he said there had been a terrorist attack in Sweden last night (which there clearly has not been), do you think thats true? Or that Trump believes it, and if so that he's deluded or an idiot?

Looking forward to your answers!