meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

so all of the above is unsubstantiated or just made up. Here's a better list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/one-month-report-card.html?ref=opinion

Told a stunning and easily disproved lie on his first full day in power. He then sent his spokesman out to repeat that lie, and said the press would “pay a big price” for refusing to do the same. The pattern of taxpayer-financed mendacity continued nearly every day under the new regime, with lies about everything from the murder rate to the weather.

Threatened to “defund” the most populous state in the nation he governs, California, the world’s sixth- largest economy, which contributes more than $350 billion in annual tax money to the federal government. “California is, in many ways, out of control,” he said.

Insisted, with no evidence, that three to five million people had voted illegally — which, if true, would constitute a huge crime, and one of the biggest election scandals ever. When pressed, a top counselor coined a term that came to define the new administration: “alternative facts.”

Told the Mexican president that he might send the world’s most powerful military across the border to take care of some “bad hombres,” prompting the cancellation of a planned meeting. Hung up on the leader of a nation, Australia, that has long been one of the United States’ most reliable allies.

Created chaos at airports around the world and leading universities and companies at home with the stroke of a pen. His ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries broke apart families, stranded doctors and scholars, and prompted an early constitutional crisis. When his executive order was halted by a court, he attacked the independent judiciary, calling the Republican-appointed judge who challenged him “a so-called judge.” He said blood would be on the hands of courts that had defied him.

Sent his 31-year-old senior adviser, Stephen Miller, out on the Sunday talk shows to further threaten judicial authority. “The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned,” Miller said.

Insulted one of the nation’s most revered civil rights heroes on the eve of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, calling Representative John Lewis “all talk, talk, talk — no action or results,” and defaming the congressman’s city of Atlanta as a crime-ridden hellhole. He used the holiday itself to brag about his Electoral College victory and bash the press.

Attacked a major American retailer, Nordstrom, for dropping a failing clothing line of his daughter’s. His top counselor, Kellyanne Conway, used her White House position to urge people to buy these same products from her boss’s daughter.

Installed as national security adviser Michael Flynn, a man who had taken Russian propaganda money and spoke, back-channel, to the ambassador of a nation that tried to disrupt the American election. The vice president lied to the public about this because he was not informed of it.

Suggested there was moral equivalence between state-sanctioned killings by Russia and actions of the United States. Not long afterward, Russia deployed a new cruise missile in violation of a treaty with the United States and moved a spy ship just off the coast of this country.

Prompted a top-ranked American general to wonder whether his own government was “stable,” a leading Republican senator to say the administration was “dysfunctional” and a respected psychiatrist to express concern about the president’s “grave emotional instability.”

Turned his resort in Florida into an open-air situation room, potentially exposing national security secrets to enemies and social media chuckleheads. “Holy moly!” posted a witness who watched it unfold.

Responded to general criticism, as well as questions about the rise of anti-Semitic acts, with a boast about his Electoral College win. “I comprehend very well, O.K.? Better than, I think, almost anybody.”

Tried to install as labor secretary someone who violated labor laws, wants to replace workers with robots and doesn’t believe burger-flippers have the right to a living wage. In announcing a new pick, after the first nominee withdrew, the president bragged about his Electoral College win.

You slap yourself. You douse your head with water. The incompetence, the leaking, the daily indignities. What country is this? Is this behavior normalized? There’s more.
As the first month was coming to a close, he held a news conference and bragged about his Electoral College win while lying about the margin’s place in history. His administration, he said, is a smooth-running machine. “There’s zero chaos.” He spent the majority of his time ranting about the press, then predicted the response: “Tomorrow, they’ll be saying, ‘Donald Trump rants and raves at the press.’ I’m not ranting and raving.”

meloanyk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The immigrant dream of coming to America and becoming an America will become real again. American pride
and economy will flourish again.

In real news that is being underreported: Business and consumer optimism is SOARING since Trump won. Small, mid size and large orgs are all rejoicing that restraints are being lifted so strong growth can be restored. Meanwhile Obamacare as Aetna CEO put it is in a death spiral. That will be repealed and replaced simply because it is failing

Everything has been shamefully done to undermine and obstruct Trump but his proactivity is already bearing fruit and he is addressing problems head on however unpleasant, issues that have been banter on but ultimately avoided by politicians. He's certainly zany, unpresidential and ineloquent but he hit the nail on the head more times than not in yesterday's press conference and was 100% right to blast Clinton News Network and NYT for their bs. News isn't fake but it's distorted, manipulated and destructively spun without regard to objective reporting. Never watched Fox much because of their own biases but they are the least offensive and closest to being balanced at present. Just wish Trump wouldn't play so loose with some facts and would drop the self promotions because a Trump focused on his agenda seems to be up to the task of being a leader who produces tangible results

As far as immigration ,I agree with stemming the tide of illegal immigration and reestablishing borders and legal immigration, rooting out and deporting the criminal element of illegal immigrants but I also hope that the vast majority already here can be documented and put on a path to citizenship. Most are hard working people with family values and pride and hopes in this country unlike some other habitual complainers , many hispanics have established small businesses from scratch given their entrepreneurial spirit and most undocumented hispanics fill many service jobs well whether that be in restaurants, landscaping, homebuilding, farming etc, that willingness to work and contribute would not necessarily be matched by others

So yea... there are many things that Trump can do to quickly stimulate business. However its another classic example of GOP blindness. He will pat himself on the back for bringing back a few hundred coal jobs but ignore the fact that the environment gets a turd dropped on it.

That is the problem with Trump and the fall in line party. They are the kings of fake news. Their headline reads: "Trump saves coal jobs, people rejoice." and his followers eat it up.
Reality: Rich energy company owners rejoice as they no longer have to adhere to those annoying and costly EPA restrictions that protect things like... water.

That is only one example. Feel free to provide any specific examples yourself. I am open to reading and learning.

Also just because he's a dumb orange monkey doesnt mean everything he's going to do is crap. The over regulation is result of the financial collapse. Nothing wrong with looking at what has worked and what hasnt, and easing off of some of what hasnt.

fishmike wrote:5 year S&P

5 year Dow:

Despite things growing for 5 years I am sure Trump will take full credit and call anyone who points out something like the charts above as liars and fake news peddlers. Then Guns will repost that on his facebook page and see? The liberal sharks are trying to bring him down!

Thx for posting this. I feared that if Trump won he'd try to act like he is the one that brought back the Economy and try to take credit for what Obama and Dems did after Bush.

Let's not forget that Republicans had their foot on the brakes of progress the entire time Obama and the Dems were trying to dig us out of the hole they created. Not to mention all the needless stunts around the Debt Ceiling etc that cost the country Billions and cost jobs!!!

They purposefully acted to stall the Economy in order to try and regain power, which was successful but hurt everyday Americans. Now the Trump and Republican Agenda can have success in many areas but at what price???

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https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/832396832974131200

djsunyc wrote:

The Obama family’s travel expenses cost America an estimated $97 million over eight years — enough to provide Fox News hosts with hours of righteous indignation. The Trump family is on pace to exceed that sum in less than seven months.

also $1 mil a day from taxpayers for security at trump tower b/c that's where his wife and kid are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-familys-elaborate-lifestyle-a-logistical-nightmare--at-taxpayer-expense/2017/02/16/763cce8e-f2ce-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html?postshare=2611487285095504&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.4785af3d852d

Although the agencies which handle most of these expenses did not reply to the Post’s request for specific figures, the newspaper was able to estimate that the president’s three trips to Mar-a-Lago probably cost roughly $10 million, that New York City spends $500,000 every day to guard Trump Tower (which could reach over $730 million by the end of Trump’s first term), and that Eric Trump’s trip to Uruguay for a Trump-brand condo tower cost nearly $100,000 in hotel bills.

martin wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

The Obama family’s travel expenses cost America an estimated $97 million over eight years — enough to provide Fox News hosts with hours of righteous indignation. The Trump family is on pace to exceed that sum in less than seven months.

also $1 mil a day from taxpayers for security at trump tower b/c that's where his wife and kid are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-familys-elaborate-lifestyle-a-logistical-nightmare--at-taxpayer-expense/2017/02/16/763cce8e-f2ce-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html?postshare=2611487285095504&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.4785af3d852d

Although the agencies which handle most of these expenses did not reply to the Post’s request for specific figures, the newspaper was able to estimate that the president’s three trips to Mar-a-Lago probably cost roughly $10 million, that New York City spends $500,000 every day to guard Trump Tower (which could reach over $730 million by the end of Trump’s first term), and that Eric Trump’s trip to Uruguay for a Trump-brand condo tower cost nearly $100,000 in hotel bills.

Wow..The savings from the F-35 program should cover his entertainment, vacations, golf outings..

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:5 year S&P

5 year Dow:

Despite things growing for 5 years I am sure Trump will take full credit and call anyone who points out something like the charts above as liars and fake news peddlers. Then Guns will repost that on his facebook page and see? The liberal sharks are trying to bring him down!

Thx for posting this. I feared that if Trump won he'd try to act like he is the one that brought back the Economy and try to take credit for what Obama and Dems did after Bush.

Let's not forget that Republicans had their foot on the brakes of progress the entire time Obama and the Dems were trying to dig us out of the hole they created. Not to mention all the needless stunts around the Debt Ceiling etc that cost the country Billions and cost jobs!!!

They purposefully acted to stall the Economy in order to try and regain power, which was successful but hurt everyday Americans. Now the Trump and Republican Agenda can have success in many areas but at what price???

Do you fellas understand the meaning of SOARING? It is happening right now unlike anytime in the last eight years because businesses, consumers and investors realize that the focus of this President's agenda is on reigniting top line growth that would result in stronger gdp and wage growth rather than an agenda that prioritizes progressivism before economic growth, a agenda that has been rejected at the various elections over the last eight years despite his personal popularity. It is factual that low growth, stagnate wages, low labor market participation has marked these last eight years , much due to the ingering Bush impact but much also due to Obama policies that stifled potential.

It was very helpful to the markets' recovery from a collapse that the Fed and the Treasury provided massive liquidity to the system by bringing fed funds down to zero for a extended period as well as unheard of quantitive easing as well general acceptance of a massive federal deficit These monetary measures rescued us from the depths of Bush but also mitigated the suppressing impact of President Obama overregulation and ACA intro especially small businesses. Now credit has been given to President Obama for standing by the auto industry and not further destabilizing that supply chain but the reality is that workers did not participate in any stock market recovery as that was achieved by corporations improving their bottom lines by cost reductions whether by further outsourcing, reduced costs of materials and liquidity repairing balance sheets. Quite different reasons than for the surge seen recently.

I do realize that many here will deflect from any Trump accomplishments, do like all obstructions however wrong and would actually like to see him to fail. Ill root for this President like all others to succeed.

I'm sorry, do you care to articulate how workers are participating in the last 13% run up post election???