So far from what I have seen in just big men. I believe I have identified a high lottery center named Justin Patton from Creighton who looks like he will be an impact nba player as he increases in body weight. I haven't see his name attached to any draft sites and certainly it's become obvious that there are 5-6 high level nba pg prospects but I'm going to assume Patton will be up there.

Two other big guys I like. Ethan Happ from Wisconsin has an old school Kevin Mchale pf game. I don't think he's a lottery pick as he lacks some explosion but boy is he skilled with a world of potential as something of a high end role player who could start 4 in the nba in 3 years

Lastly I like Tacko Fall the center from Ucf he doesn't have the same pure nba upside as Patton but his body stamina improvement has done wonders for him and he is the absolute wildcats of the next draft. He's so big that it's impossible to completely gauge what he can do. He has good hands which makes him a high quality rebounder and at 7-6 300 with some lift he's an anchor on a defense and ucf is already showing great defensive team abilities

Obviously I haven't seen many of he teams but these 3 big guys stood out to me. Will work on 2-3s. And finally 1s over the next month

Why nalod being snarky? Just putting it out there that watching some college hoops and some early season success of not so famous brand name players is not make for some super sluth scout.
Not all execellent players are on legacy NCAA teams like UNC, Duke or UK, but come from mid majors. With some schools now in major conferences, they get some good exposure.
Btw, Patton is a center, not a pg. You perhaps thinking about the kid Foster, a transfer from Kansas state that had a great week on the same team.

They played Loyola and Omaha. Lets see how they fair the rest of the way.

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Briggs Nuggets.
Justin Patton was named big east player of the week so its not like briggsy went to some remote village and discovered him all by himself.
Also in October, he was named a preseason top 20 center via:
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2016-10-21/college-basketball-20-players-named-2017-kareem-abdul-jabbar

Why nalod being snarky? Just putting it out there that watching some college hoops and some early season success of not so famous brand name players is not make for some super sluth scout.
Not all execellent players are on legacy NCAA teams like UNC, Duke or UK, but come from mid majors. With some schools now in major conferences, they get some good exposure.
Btw, Patton is a center, not a pg. You perhaps thinking about the kid Foster, a transfer from Kansas state that had a great week on the same team.

They played Loyola and Omaha. Lets see how they fair the rest of the way.

Yeah I think I know hes a C since I saw him twice now. There are an obvious 5-6 really high caliber PGs in college right now--but what Im am surmising is over time that Patton will have a chance to climb up into recognition of a top 5 or 6 pick. Im not sure who is what player of the week where--I simply see a player and mention it here. My guess is 99% of posters never heard of these players before.

Heres a new video of him--you can see how fluid he runs in transition and reasonably advanced post moves for 19 and 7 feet.

Is PG not "Point Guard"?

He was a preseaon top 20 pick and there was no ranking per se.
OK but you do realize you promote it as if they are "Your findings". And since you do it frequently, your going to find some good ones that rise the rankings.
No problem. I am a more causual College basketball watcher and I never heard of him. When I looked him up, I saw he was red shirted previously and he had some preseason cred.
So I do appreciate this kind of stuff as it might make it interesting when flipping channels.

I say give this Briggs his own "Sticky" college thread and let him have his voice!!!!!

Nalod wrote:Briggs Nuggets.
Justin Patton was named big east player of the week so its not like briggsy went to some remote village and discovered him all by himself.
Also in October, he was named a preseason top 20 center via:
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2016-10-21/college-basketball-20-players-named-2017-kareem-abdul-jabbar

Why nalod being snarky? Just putting it out there that watching some college hoops and some early season success of not so famous brand name players is not make for some super sluth scout.
Not all execellent players are on legacy NCAA teams like UNC, Duke or UK, but come from mid majors. With some schools now in major conferences, they get some good exposure.
Btw, Patton is a center, not a pg. You perhaps thinking about the kid Foster, a transfer from Kansas state that had a great week on the same team.

They played Loyola and Omaha. Lets see how they fair the rest of the way.

I like this Frank Kaminsky kid out of Wisconsin

-they need to stop having these big time matchups early in the season because these teams are NOT good yet. (besides that kansas vs indiana game)
- too much over-referring kills the sport. now theyre thinking of 6 fouls.smh
- Duke is #1 despite missing 3 of their most talented players. WOW ive never seen that before. UNC might be the actual best team in the country
- Xavier and Creighton are really good.
- my Syracuse team should play more small ball (with lydon at the 5) but they choose to stay big cuz of the zone.
in terms of prospects: Ball and Fultz have impressed me the most so far.
- overall, its tough to evaluate NCAA prospects because the NCAA game is almost completely different from the NBA game. for example, i think Bam Bam Abedayo will be a terrific pro (d. howard clone) yet you would never know based on watching an NCAA game (they pack the paint so he cant dive to the rim)
- im not into finding 2nd round hidden gems. you just never know what can happen becuase there are so many variables: motivation, position, team, etc

callmened wrote:a couple of my NCAA thoughts:

-they need to stop having these big time matchups early in the season because these teams are NOT good yet. (besides that kansas vs indiana game)
- too much over-referring kills the sport. now theyre thinking of 6 fouls.smh
- Duke is #1 despite missing 3 of their most talented players. WOW ive never seen that before. UNC might be the actual best team in the country
- Xavier and Creighton are really good.
- my Syracuse team should play more small ball (with lydon at the 5) but they choose to stay big cuz of the zone.
in terms of prospects: Ball and Fultz have impressed me the most so far.
- overall, its tough to evaluate NCAA prospects because the NCAA game is almost completely different from the NBA game. for example, i think Bam Bam Abedayo will be a terrific pro (d. howard clone) yet you would never know based on watching an NCAA game (they pack the paint so he cant dive to the rim)
- im not into finding 2nd round hidden gems. you just never know what can happen becuase there are so many variables: motivation, position, team, etc

Duke is 4th having lost their 1st game nov. 15th and thus fell out of Number 1 spot about 10 days ago. Thus, injuries did play a role. You don't lose your no. 1 status until you lose a game.
UNC might be the best, but they lost last nite too.
I like this early tough schedule thing BEFORE conference play, the teams will be more prepared heading into the real season instead of blow out scrimmages against lessor teams.
Its very tough to evaluate players. Its why NBA draft is not easy. Its why March madness gets darlings and fans forget about international players, then fans boo when they are picked over the recent tournament darlings !!! Some young fans actually cry over it!!!
2nd round gems are tough also they need to really blow coach's away in summerleauge and in camp otherwise they fall into the forgotten zone. Late bloomers are penalized badly.

Just follow Briggs, he'll find them for you!

BRIGGS wrote:Best game of year so far Kentucky ucla

hmmmm? indiana vs kansas mightve been better but i cant argue with the UCLA game. fun to watch!!

TJ Leak will be a solid pro one day

BRIGGS wrote:My main guy for round 2 will be the same all year--Josh Hart from Villanova--I think he can help the Knicks today right now. Hes not on any draft sites because hes a senior but hes just better than most SG with good size that will be available.

There is a guy I like for a few years to fall out of the draft named Zeek Woodley.

There is some good seniors this year

Hart has worked himself into rd 1. He can easily play 1-2. Hes 6-5 215 athletic multi dexterous smart shifty strong excellent rebounder defender