Nice

Let's build on this

Chandler wrote:More boards and assists than Hawks who are a very solid team

Nice

Let's build on this

Portland game Tuesday could be tough.

I am VERY interested to see the back to back against Charlotte next weekend. That's an interesting test and I think the Knicks match up well there. Be nice to sweep that back to back with them.

crzymdups wrote:I would say that between the game in Toronto, the win against Detroit and today's game, we've seen some very promising signs in the past week of what this team can be. The loss in Washington was bad, but it was the second night of a back to back. Overall, some progress in the past week.

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
Also, I can't stress enough - this is the best CLee and DRose have looked to me today. Best by far.

And great game for Billy.

Should Noah be an assistant coach going forward?

IMO you just reduce Noah's minutes.

I still see Noah continuing to improve as he gets into better shape.

Would like to know how much heavier he is now than when he was DPOY. My guess is 20+ lbs. He is not as quick right now as I remember him with the Bulls.

It does seem that we really lucked out with Willy, though...maybe we end up with a poor man's Marc Gasol...who knows?

No "luck" involved with Willy or KP! They scouted the hell out of those guys. They were very confident in what they had. It's great to see Willy playing well at this level. KP and Willy look like a great start on our future.

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
Also, I can't stress enough - this is the best CLee and DRose have looked to me today. Best by far.

And great game for Billy.

Should Noah be an assistant coach going forward?

IMO you just reduce Noah's minutes.

I still see Noah continuing to improve as he gets into better shape.

Would like to know how much heavier he is now than when he was DPOY. My guess is 20+ lbs. He is not as quick right now as I remember him with the Bulls.

It does seem that we really lucked out with Willy, though...maybe we end up with a poor man's Marc Gasol...who knows?

No "luck" involved with Willy or KP! They scouted the hell out of those guys. They were very confident in what they had. It's great to see Willy playing well at this level. KP and Willy look like a great start on our future.

I was a fan of the pick after reading up about him after we got him, and talked about him being our "1st rnd pick" for this, but you can never be sure about any pick until you've seen them in action for your team.

Seems like he's a good one, and I expect him to only get better.

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
Also, I can't stress enough - this is the best CLee and DRose have looked to me today. Best by far.

And great game for Billy.

Should Noah be an assistant coach going forward?

IMO you just reduce Noah's minutes.

I still see Noah continuing to improve as he gets into better shape.

Would like to know how much heavier he is now than when he was DPOY. My guess is 20+ lbs. He is not as quick right now as I remember him with the Bulls.

It does seem that we really lucked out with Willy, though...maybe we end up with a poor man's Marc Gasol...who knows?

No "luck" involved with Willy or KP! They scouted the hell out of those guys. They were very confident in what they had. It's great to see Willy playing well at this level. KP and Willy look like a great start on our future.

Always "luck" involved...everyone gets "scouted the hell out of" for the most part, these days. KP was a known talent...Willy less so. Glad we ended up with both of them.

I was a fan of the pick after reading up about him after we got him, and talked about him being our "1st rnd pick" for this, but you can never be sure about any pick until you've seen them in action for your team.

Seems like he's a good one, and I expect him to only get better.

No EVERYONE doesn't get scouted the hell out of. Let's not make this into a game of silliness. Of course you hope that any player you draft will be as good or better than your predictions for him. Still it takes hard work and skill to recognize raw talent and project what you think they will be. That's why they pay these guys to spend so much time evaluating and then giving their best recommendation.

What I meant by scouted the hell out of them is that the Knicks sent basically EVERYONE to go and see KP and Willy as well as other players. They haven't ALWAYS done that. So that's why I said it wasn't luck. That is hard F'n work. Does it guarantee success? Of course not but you make your own luck with hard work and that's what the Knicks brass did. So give them their due for once, that's all i'm saying.

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:
Also, I can't stress enough - this is the best CLee and DRose have looked to me today. Best by far.

And great game for Billy.

Should Noah be an assistant coach going forward?

IMO you just reduce Noah's minutes.

I still see Noah continuing to improve as he gets into better shape.

Would like to know how much heavier he is now than when he was DPOY. My guess is 20+ lbs. He is not as quick right now as I remember him with the Bulls.

It does seem that we really lucked out with Willy, though...maybe we end up with a poor man's Marc Gasol...who knows?

No "luck" involved with Willy or KP! They scouted the hell out of those guys. They were very confident in what they had. It's great to see Willy playing well at this level. KP and Willy look like a great start on our future.

Always "luck" involved...everyone gets "scouted the hell out of" for the most part, these days. KP was a known talent...Willy less so. Glad we ended up with both of them.

I was a fan of the pick after reading up about him after we got him, and talked about him being our "1st rnd pick" for this, but you can never be sure about any pick until you've seen them in action for your team.

Seems like he's a good one, and I expect him to only get better.

No EVERYONE doesn't get scouted the hell out of. Let's not make this into a game of silliness. Of course you hope that any player you draft will be as good or better than your predictions for him. Still it takes hard work and skill to recognize raw talent and project what you think they will be. That's why they pay these guys to spend so much time evaluating and then giving their best recommendation.

What I meant by scouted the hell out of them is that the Knicks sent basically EVERYONE to go and see KP and Willy as well as other players. They haven't ALWAYS done that. So that's why I said it wasn't luck. That is hard F'n work. Does it guarantee success? Of course not but you make your own luck with hard work and that's what the Knicks brass did. So give them their due for once, that's all i'm saying.

They actually said they chose Willy because he played with KP and wanted him to have someone he can relate to on the roster, and once again KP was in the draft the year before as a sure fire 1st round pick. He wasn't absolutely known. the Knicks did what anyone else did. They saw available talent and grabbed it.

You're missing my point. KP may have had a ton of upside but it was not an automatic choice. It's revisionist history to talk like there was no question about KP. Many thought a more sure bet prospect was the right move.

It's not about KP being unknown and Willy being KP's friend. They put actual resources into acquiring Willy because they really put a lot of thought into his fit here and his skills. They liked what they saw with KP and Willy on the floor together and that was some serious forethought. Phil listened to his scouts when it came to KP and Willy and they were right. He was the one who picked Grant and he was wrong about that one. Phil has admitted that assessing raw talent isn't his thing. It's hard not to give the Knicks staff some credit for assessing talent at this point.