KP4Life wrote:do we all agree we should just tank? This next draft is very good. It just makes sense to tank, sadly. We need to look to the future guys. Lets get us a Josh Jackson or Fultz. The draft can completely change a teams future. What if we didn't tank and get KP? We would be in an even worse position now then before.

No, we already have our unicorn. Team needs to grow and get better, we got the players to do so, just got to work on putting them together.

martin wrote:

KP4Life wrote:do we all agree we should just tank? This next draft is very good. It just makes sense to tank, sadly. We need to look to the future guys. Lets get us a Josh Jackson or Fultz. The draft can completely change a teams future. What if we didn't tank and get KP? We would be in an even worse position now then before.

No, we already have our unicorn. Team needs to grow and get better, we got the players to do so, just got to work on putting them together.

It would not be the time to tank but if they still look bad in January they need to trade Lee if he has value. This draft class might be the only way the Knicks get a legit PG. THe only other option is to remain all in and see if you can get Dragic in a trade but his contract at his age is scary.

They're still in the mix and that despite all the issues with new players, young players, new to the league players etc. they've won games in spite of those issues and I don't believe we've seen the best from this team yet.

Knicks67 wrote:Okay for my mind, we have till January. If things are bleak, pull the pin. Move Melo to a contender and take in all the assets you can, young players, first rounders I'd be pleased with either. What this does is allow us to tank for a season for a good pick, drop Rose, and move forward with Kristaps. It benefits everyone in my opinion, Melo can go and have a better hope of a ring or finals appearance and Knicks get a future with Kristaps. In my opinion, a team that should be talked to is the Hawks, if we could take Schroder and/or Bazemore with a couple picks I'd take it. Hawks get a legit scorer to add to their already strong team. Anyway just what I'd be doing if I were Phil.

KP4Life wrote:do we all agree we should just tank? This next draft is very good. It just makes sense to tank, sadly. We need to look to the future guys. Lets get us a Josh Jackson or Fultz. The draft can completely change a teams future. What if we didn't tank and get KP? We would be in an even worse position now then before.

I understand your logic, but if the priority is KP, then tanking teaches bad habits to young players- teaches them just to focus on 'getting theirs' rather than winning.

NumberTwoPencil wrote:Yes. Tank. Even though last year's acquisitions . . . set back that project somewhat.

Given the no trade part of Melo's contract, he might be easier to move if we tank. I'm okay with not getting much back for him, just to move on. Surely we can get a pick or two, even if they aren't great picks.

Honestly a decent first rounder and promising young gun is enough for me. As soon as that happens Kristaps becomes the first option, our pick gains immense value and we can put Melo on a contender. It's down to Melo though, we either settle in to the end of next season to get rid of him once he is a free agent, or we hope he realises he is running out of time for that elusive ring and he lifts the clause.

Welpee wrote:Tanking has really helped the Sixers, huh? What we should've done is found a way to GET some 1st round picks instead of always trading ours. Maybe we'd be in a situation like Boston where they are winning, have lotto picks, and didn't have to tank. Besides, if you know what you're doing you can get quality talent outside of the lottery.

Not sure why people think tanking is an effective strategy.

They will probably be a 6-8 seed and maybe get outta round 1.

My hope is Clips fail in 1st round and CP3 comes here next season. I think looking for interchangeable players in the 2017 draft, like the Celts always take, is what KP needs to be surrounded with. You add that to a Melo/Noah veteran presence, w/ CP3's leadership and I think you have a nice recipe for a contender.

Maybe Phil can convert the 2nd's into another 1.

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