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crzymdups
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11/16/2016  2:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2016  2:48 PM
Hey I made the last game thread and we won. I'm going for 2-0!

Last time we played Detroit - their small ball combo forwards Tobias Harris and Marcus Morris tore up the Knicks on the wing. Will Hornacek go small to combat that lineup? It'd be nice to have a healthy Lance Thomas for this game, because both Harris and Morris are too big for Justin Holiday.

Maybe N'Dour can be called upon?

Also last game, KP was in a good rhythm but Hornacek sat him for the first nine minutes of the 4th quarter. Hopefully we'll see better rotation management tonight!

Jennings also had a solid game - hopefully he comes out inspired tonight.

Let's go!

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11/16/2016  3:01 PM
Kporzingus should be able to run circles around Drummond - if melo and coach hornecek allow it
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/16/2016  3:12 PM
I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.
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11/16/2016  3:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2016  3:17 PM
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

Those were the days. I remember when teams used to fear our defense, I hate that any old scrub knows they're going to have a career game vs us
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11/16/2016  3:22 PM
I think we win and its a big Melo game. Morris hit a ton of crazy shots over him last time... so far the Knicks have shown good effort after getting beat. This is their first chance against a team that beat them this year. We really just need to find ways to win games. Im not picky!
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11/16/2016  3:31 PM
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

That's what Phil wants bit the rest of the basketball world wants us to play like everyone else.

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11/16/2016  3:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2016  3:42 PM
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

That's what Phil wants bit the rest of the basketball world wants us to play like everyone else.

You play to your strengths. Our strengths are Melo and KP being so versatile on offense that they are a mismatch nightmare for opposing big men. If you play KP mostly away from the basket, he is relatively easy to guard. He is just going to spot up. Playing him in the post, he is nearly impossible to guard, and can bring centers outside when he wants. We know how much of a mismatch Melo is too. Playing smaller like eveyone else is doing, happens to be our strength. How many teams have offensive talent like Melo and KP in the front court?
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11/16/2016  3:45 PM
Knixkik wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

That's what Phil wants bit the rest of the basketball world wants us to play like everyone else.

You play to your strengths. Our strengths are Melo and KP being so versatile on offense that they are a mismatch nightmare for opposing big men. If you play KP mostly away from the basket, he is relatively easy to guard. He is just going to spot up. Playing him in the post, he is nearly impossible to guard, and can bring centers outside when he wants. We know how much of a mismatch Melo is too. Playing smaller like eveyone else is doing, happens to be our strength. How many teams have offensive talent like Melo and KP in the front court?

Yes, I think playing small ball actually does play to the strengths of Melo and KP.

But at some point you have to react to the way other teams are playing. Even teams in the Finals make adjustments to the other team. You have to do it, or a team can keep exploiting a weakness it finds.

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11/16/2016  4:10 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

That's what Phil wants bit the rest of the basketball world wants us to play like everyone else.

You play to your strengths. Our strengths are Melo and KP being so versatile on offense that they are a mismatch nightmare for opposing big men. If you play KP mostly away from the basket, he is relatively easy to guard. He is just going to spot up. Playing him in the post, he is nearly impossible to guard, and can bring centers outside when he wants. We know how much of a mismatch Melo is too. Playing smaller like eveyone else is doing, happens to be our strength. How many teams have offensive talent like Melo and KP in the front court?

Yes, I think playing small ball actually does play to the strengths of Melo and KP.

But at some point you have to react to the way other teams are playing. Even teams in the Finals make adjustments to the other team. You have to do it, or a team can keep exploiting a weakness it finds.

At some point too you have to instill your will on the league. Melo being a 4 and Kristaps the 5 doesn't change anything. We do need to dictate how the game istarted played. Triangle, "spread offense", pick and roll.... it's all the same game of basketball. You get guys into the right spots to be successful. On defense you see the ball and see your man. Not rocket science.

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11/16/2016  4:12 PM
Anyway.... this is a revenge game. We need this W!
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11/16/2016  4:17 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Knixkik wrote:I just wish we didn't try to match up to other teams and forced teams to match up to us.

That's what Phil wants bit the rest of the basketball world wants us to play like everyone else.

You play to your strengths. Our strengths are Melo and KP being so versatile on offense that they are a mismatch nightmare for opposing big men. If you play KP mostly away from the basket, he is relatively easy to guard. He is just going to spot up. Playing him in the post, he is nearly impossible to guard, and can bring centers outside when he wants. We know how much of a mismatch Melo is too. Playing smaller like eveyone else is doing, happens to be our strength. How many teams have offensive talent like Melo and KP in the front court?

Yes, I think playing small ball actually does play to the strengths of Melo and KP.

But at some point you have to react to the way other teams are playing. Even teams in the Finals make adjustments to the other team. You have to do it, or a team can keep exploiting a weakness it finds.

Then you can play Noah and Hermangomez some extended minutes. We have the ability to give a lot of looks out there. Noah still has a ton of value to us. But our strength is KP and Melo, who are matchup nightmares for every team.
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11/16/2016  5:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2016  5:35 PM
We've seen former Knicks coaches let starters play starters minutes all season no matter how poorly they were playing. Hornacek very quickly has benched poorly performing starters, experimented with the lineup.

Not like Fisher who spent all season experimenting, sitting players even if they were playing well, which made developing some kind of chemistry unlikely. As long as Jeff figures things out, this is a good sign.

Want to see them keep feeding the hot hand. We have a bunch of ball dominant players who probably will be more comfortable taking a smaller role at times, if they know they will get the ball when they're feeling it.
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11/16/2016  5:37 PM
It makes a huge difference having that extra shooter in there in place of Noah. Teams get spread thin and you can't handle KP and Melo and also recover to the guards. That could turn into the Death Lineup for the Knicks.
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11/16/2016  6:22 PM
did i read somewhere that drummond might not play?
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11/16/2016  6:25 PM
callmened wrote:Kporzingus should be able to run circles around Drummond - if melo and coach hornecek allow it
The flip side is Drummond could also foul KP out in 10 minutes if it goes the Pistons way
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11/16/2016  6:25 PM
Cartman718 wrote:did i read somewhere that drummond might not play?
Did you?
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11/16/2016  6:28 PM
ESPN has Drummond out.
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11/16/2016  6:30 PM
Alot of you guys like to say we don't need another scorer... this league proves that you can't survive with only 2 scorers out of 5.... you need everyone to have the ability to score on their own. That would encourages good passing. It also inspires the defense.
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11/16/2016  6:55 PM
Andrew wrote:ESPN has Drummond out.

Small ball here we come!

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11/16/2016  7:03 PM
Andrew wrote:ESPN has Drummond out.
Wow. Knicks catch a break.
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