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11/14/2016  9:48 PM
Holiday not looking like just a throw in. Nice game today. Anyone remember Grant?
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11/14/2016  9:49 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

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11/14/2016  9:50 PM 
4Q - 1:46
NYK 89 DAL 70
HofstraBBall
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11/14/2016  9:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

Its a start. Specially how it looked early on.

'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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11/14/2016  9:54 PM 
4Q - 1:25
NYK 92 DAL 70
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11/14/2016  9:58 PM 
FINAL
NYK 93 DAL 77
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11/14/2016  9:58 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

Its a start. Specially how it looked early on.

Oh, I don't disagree. I was ready to check out if they lost this one.

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11/14/2016  10:00 PM
crzymdups wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

Its a start. Specially how it looked early on.

Oh, I don't disagree. I was ready to check out if they lost this one.

Hear you there.

'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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11/14/2016  10:01 PM
LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.
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11/14/2016  10:02 PM
crzymdups wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

Its a start. Specially how it looked early on.

Oh, I don't disagree. I was ready to check out if they lost this one.

Noted. But their D looked dominant in the 3rd with the lineup change. It will help with them buying into playing defense for future games and will grow confidence.
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11/14/2016  10:03 PM
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

It was also against the Mavs. We heard this kind of talk after the Brooklyn win, too. But that was Brooklyn. They don't get to play below average teams every night. But it sure helps when they can!

I would like to see Holiday play more than Noah right now though.

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11/14/2016  10:05 PM
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

What I like about him is that he's not afraid to bench veterans or star players when other lineups are working. In a previous game, Rose sat the entire 2nd half when Jennings had it going. Tonight, because of matchups, Noah was benched in the 2nd half and we excelled. Not a lot of coaches would have the balls to do this. There should be no ego. What's best for the team.
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11/14/2016  10:08 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

It was also against the Mavs. We heard this kind of talk after the Brooklyn win, too. But that was Brooklyn. They don't get to play below average teams every night. But it sure helps when they can!

I would like to see Holiday play more than Noah right now though.

I don't really base it on the opponent. The Knicks had chances in other games against better teams but they didn't execute on the level they did tonight. You can see good defense vs bad D no matter who you play. Don't dismiss this based on who they played. They started the game playing poorly and with bad matchups. They ended playing up to their talent level which is what they should always be doing.
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11/14/2016  10:13 PM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

It was also against the Mavs. We heard this kind of talk after the Brooklyn win, too. But that was Brooklyn. They don't get to play below average teams every night. But it sure helps when they can!

I would like to see Holiday play more than Noah right now though.

I don't really base it on the opponent. The Knicks had chances in other games against better teams but they didn't execute on the level they did tonight. You can see good defense vs bad D no matter who you play. Don't dismiss this based on who they played. They started the game playing poorly and with bad matchups. They ended playing up to their talent level which is what they should always be doing.

You don't think it has to do with their opponent? I do!

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11/14/2016  10:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

It was also against the Mavs. We heard this kind of talk after the Brooklyn win, too. But that was Brooklyn. They don't get to play below average teams every night. But it sure helps when they can!

I would like to see Holiday play more than Noah right now though.


I assume that Holiday gets more time depending on match-ups...but he sure as hell made a case for a larger role, and it was impressive to see him going up against a bigger player-Barnes- and shutting him down on offense.

With Thomas hurting, this is a pretty big moment for Holiday...hopefully, he is up to it.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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11/14/2016  10:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/14/2016  10:17 PM
Justin Holiday tonight - 25min 6/7fg 16pts good defense

+30 on +/-

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11/14/2016  10:20 PM
Wonder what this is about

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11/14/2016  10:53 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

Its a start. Specially how it looked early on.

Oh, I don't disagree. I was ready to check out if they lost this one.

Hear you there.

Yeah, i wasn't to impress with this win, we need to beat a few good teams

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11/14/2016  10:55 PM
nixluva wrote:LET JEFF BE JEFF!!! The team looked much different with the smaller lineup and it looked more like a Jeff Hornacek team. Hopefully he can take to heart what he saw and make it more of a regular thing going forward.

I heard that Phil wasn't exactly upset with the lack of triangle, he said he just wants to see system basketball.

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11/14/2016  11:34 PM
crzymdups wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Don't look now but the Knicks are playing good defense. Held the Mavs to 66 pts with 3 minutes to play (and they're not fouling like the last 2 games).

BTW, I think Holiday has officially usurped Lance in the rotation--even when he's back from injury. Lance has not been good this year. Holiday can provide both defense and offense.

To be fair, the Mavs are also god awful. They're 2-6 coming in, soon to be 2-7, playing without Dirk. They're not a good team.

agreed its not like we got a impressive win against a tough team. I still think 42-45 wins is a pretty accurate total which isnt bad
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