this is a small team a very small team. im going to wonder how bad this team will be exploited inside im looking at this roster and we have no length no shot blockers no 7 footers no real muscular frontcourt guys other then 6-7 1/2 sweetney. we really couldve used doelac back if this team doesnt get Dampier its just a huge problem that will be difficult to solve IMHO.

It doesn't matter to me because the team is only in the very early stages of Isiah's rebuilding. $76 mil in expiring contracts of the next two years should be able to address any and every problem.

The Knicks need a long, athletic shot blocker, and a post up player. So yes, the Knicks need size.

Briggs calm down. We will get a big man one way or the other. If you like, maybe Kurt can wear platform sneakers and add and extra 3 inches to his height.

even if he is done dealing we should be good enough and deep enough to win the atlantic.

We wont win a title with this size, because our post defense is suspect and slow. Obviously we need an athletic post player... a Camby/Ratliff type would be perfect. Dampier would be solid there also. A Nazr/Sweetney/KT/JYD/Baker rotation isnt bad, but its not intimidating by any means.

One thing at a time. We went from being an old roster with no speed or athleticism, no energy or excitment. Heck, the most we had to root for was for Frank to beat out Ward and Eisley for the starting PG job, or KVH to play like he did with the Nets 4 year earlier.

If Dampier signs I will be honestly impressed because Isiah will have gotten someone to play here for half the money. If he doesnt we are probably a year away from having the assets to get a big man.

Why is this a bad thing?

And before the trade we had size? You just can't let people be happy can't you. Landing Dampier is going so solve that problem, but if we don't then forgive Iseah for not making us into a title contender over a year. Se still have Sweetney who I think should start and has good size (very hypocritical of you to bring up his height, if you watched him play you know he is a great rebounder), we still have 6 11 250 Baker, we still have 6 10 250 Mohammed, and the we still have JYD who is an outstanding rebounder. Sure this is not the perfect frontcourt, but it is not what you described it to be. I did not even mention KT, who when healthy is a 14pts, 8rbds, 1blk a game center btw. Rebounding should be the least of our worries, post defense is OK too, with KT being a solid lowpost defender. Considering JYD is also a great defender who can defend boththe 4 and the 3, we should be improved in that area. The only thing we would be lacking is shotblocking, and that stat is way overrated anyways, the team just needs to learn how play team defense.

Does anyone seriously think that 24 months from now, after the Knicks have used $76 mil in expiring contracts, that Nazy Mohammed is going to be the starting center??? If not, then be patient. If so, then you're as clueless as Chad Ford was a few weeks ago!

Maybe a thousand years from now the Knicks and I too will care about payroll. For the next thousand years, though, we'll both have to be satisfied with seeing the Knicks have a big payroll and an enormous annual net profit
[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08/08/2004 15:53:36]

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08/08/2004 15:54:15]

the Knicks have never lost money. Cablevision has gone in the read but as a seperate entity the Knicks still produce. Even under Layden the team made $$$. Their profit was way down but its still profit.

The simple fact is the Knicks can operate at a $70mm payroll and still exceed the revenue of every other team except the Lakers. This notion of a 100 plus mm payroll is temporary. Even if the Knicks do use some of the expiring deals to net a bigman you still have some insane salaries coming off the books. Penny's $15mm, Shandon's $8mm, Houston's $20mm (unreal), TT's $14mm. Those are mind numbing #s. I think TT is going to be excellent for us (just a feeling I admit it) but even if we resign him its not going to be for $15mm a year.

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Isiah is not done dealing, fellas. Watch how his next move or two helps bulk up our frontline.

As far as the last trade, what did we really lose?
Frank williams: we got Crawford, thus strngthening the backcourt.
A 40-year old Deke: If the Dampier moves goes smoothly, it will only amount to a frontcourt improvement.
Othella Harrington: At this point, I'd rather have the JYD.
Cezary Trybanski: a mere throw-in that we won't miss anyway.

Let's see what issues we have by training camp. I believe that this will be a dead issue by then.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 08/08/2004 10:29:48]

We lost all the Knicks' expiring contracts, the most marketable trading chips Isiah had. Talent for talent, the deal was a no-brainer.

[Edited by - Rich on 08/08/2004 18:33:29]

Once againt, BRIGGS, either you come back here with some sort of data backing up your opinion about the money situation, or it just remains an opinion, which we all know, so posting it over and over again for about a million times is not going to make it fact.