EnySpree wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Maybe KP's worst game as a Knick?

Considering the expectations, yes. But he was never involved tonight and he's not ready to hunt for his own shots on a consistent basis yet. They really need to work him into the offense.

Hes got to be more aggressive. We can't force feed a kid that doesn't want to shoot. He seems content with just playing the game. It's not a bad thing but it is not what we expect from him

If acquiring Rose and Jennings equates to KP getting less looks and his game regressing in his sophomore season, then they were bad moves.

I don't know what I'm talking about lol. Just trying to pick the corn out the poo

The defense looked even worse tonight than the preseason defense against the Rockets. This is unacceptable and IMO has to be an indictment of the coach and his staff. The team wasn't ready defensively. I can forgive the offense being bad but the defense simply has to be there.

nixluva wrote:The last 2 games have been embarrassing but you can't get too crazy about 2 horrid games. This team has to regroup and the coaching staff has some serious work to do.

The defense looked even worse tonight than the preseason defense against the Rockets. This is unacceptable and IMO has to be an indictment of the coach and his staff. The team wasn't ready defensively. I can forgive the offense being bad but the defense simply has to be there.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:The last 2 games have been embarrassing but you can't get too crazy about 2 horrid games. This team has to regroup and the coaching staff has some serious work to do.

The defense looked even worse tonight than the preseason defense against the Rockets. This is unacceptable and IMO has to be an indictment of the coach and his staff. The team wasn't ready defensively. I can forgive the offense being bad but the defense simply has to be there.

This. In the preseason Hornacek said they weren't scouting and preparing for teams individually on defense. This needs to happen now. Everybody knows what D'Antoni teams are going to do. The Knicks haven't looked prepared.

Detroit did the sane thing last night though. Every team is going to try to do the sane thing. I bet on evey teams scouting report it reads "push the ball and kick the ball to the 3 point line".

EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:The last 2 games have been embarrassing but you can't get too crazy about 2 horrid games. This team has to regroup and the coaching staff has some serious work to do.

The defense looked even worse tonight than the preseason defense against the Rockets. This is unacceptable and IMO has to be an indictment of the coach and his staff. The team wasn't ready defensively. I can forgive the offense being bad but the defense simply has to be there.

This. In the preseason Hornacek said they weren't scouting and preparing for teams individually on defense. This needs to happen now. Everybody knows what D'Antoni teams are going to do. The Knicks haven't looked prepared.

Detroit did the sane thing last night though. Every team is going to try to do the sane thing. I bet on evey teams scouting report it reads "push the ball and kick the ball to the 3 point line".

I've never seen a team make more WRONG decisions on D trying to deal with a PnR!!! The Knicks never force the ball handler towards the sides or to even trap the ball handler and make him pass. They rarely stopped the ball coming down the floor and blew covering the Roll Man OVER AND OVER...

This team isn't even playing High School level D!

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:hornacek: "kp is often in a mismatch and we are not looking for him. we have to take advantage of that."

that's code for "he's being frozen out."

pretty much. Look i admit KP had a terrible game but he needs to be a priority on offense.

this year should have been about developing kp6 as the main guy, so you had to be concerned when jackson acquired rose and jennings, albeit on one-year contracts. as we all know, this was done to appease carmelo anthiny, who looks every bit the 32 year old he is-- with 33,000 minutes logged in the nba, and who is averaging close to 35 minutes a game thus far this season. this is a very bad trend.

what we have seen thus far is what happens when you try to accomplish two separate agendas: you can't serve melo's agenda and not expect kp6 to get screwed.

that's the big picture, but my guess is that most posters on knicks forums essentially can't see the forest for the trees.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:hornacek: "kp is often in a mismatch and we are not looking for him. we have to take advantage of that."

that's code for "he's being frozen out."

pretty much. Look i admit KP had a terrible game but he needs to be a priority on offense.

this year should have been about developing kp6 as the main guy, so you had to be concerned when jackson acquired rose and jennings, albeit on one-year contracts. as we all know, this was done to appease carmelo anthiny, who looks every bit the 32 year old he is-- with 33,000 minutes logged in the nba, and who is averaging close to 35 minutes a game thus far this season. this is a very bad trend.

what we have seen thus far is what happens when you try to accomplish two separate agendas: you can't serve melo's agenda and not expect kp6 to get screwed.

that's the big picture, but my guess is that most posters on knicks forums essentially can't see the forest for the trees.

the good news is that we have our draft picks plus rose is a expiring contract. I like hornacek and i hope he is more forceful in what he says

i don't see it happening. rose and melo are a HORRIBLE combination and a HORRIBLE influence on one another.