dk7th wrote:Last night's statline for these two players-- both on one-year audition contracts-- indicate that we can expect more of the same from them.

I have said repeatedly that Rose cannot take more shots than KP6.... and he took 17 shots to KP6's 13. Rose also had 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

UNACCEPTABLE

Jennings shoots 1-7, including 0-4 from the 3-point line

UNACCEPTABLE

There was zero-- zip, nada, zilch-- offensive cohesion and no discernible triangle being run last night because guess what: neither rose nor ennings know how to participate in it. they are merely drive and kick, inefficient guards. this sort of play TORPEDOES THE OFFENSE AND HURTS MORALE

UNACCEPTABLE

hornacek looked very disappointed and sad last night-- why? he may have realized that

YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

Running triangle with Rosennings or let them do what they used to do will have the same outcome.
So as soon as we have them for a year why not to try to enhance their games?
We are losing nothing with this 2.
This year outcome is Melo and Phil problem as their windows are closing.
Knicks are not going anywhere this year anyways.
So it should be used to develop young players and continue with establishing winning culture.

arkrud wrote:

dk7th wrote:Last night's statline for these two players-- both on one-year audition contracts-- indicate that we can expect more of the same from them.

I have said repeatedly that Rose cannot take more shots than KP6.... and he took 17 shots to KP6's 13. Rose also had 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

UNACCEPTABLE

Jennings shoots 1-7, including 0-4 from the 3-point line

UNACCEPTABLE

There was zero-- zip, nada, zilch-- offensive cohesion and no discernible triangle being run last night because guess what: neither rose nor ennings know how to participate in it. they are merely drive and kick, inefficient guards. this sort of play TORPEDOES THE OFFENSE AND HURTS MORALE

UNACCEPTABLE

hornacek looked very disappointed and sad last night-- why? he may have realized that

YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

Running triangle with Rosennings or let them do what they used to do will have the same outcome.
So as soon as we have them for a year why not to try to enhance their games?
We are losing nothing with this 2.
This year outcome is Melo and Phil problem as their windows are closing.
Knicks are not going anywhere this year anyways.
So it should be used to develop young players and continue with establishing winning culture.

i agree, but as you know, a majority of pollyanna posters predict a playoff run with this team. i have said 38 wins is likelier. this year should be about kp6's development, and grooming kuzminskas, hernangomez, and baker to be able to become established.

newyorknewyork wrote:Wasn't a good showing by Rose. He has some good drives for layups which we haven't had in years. But he turned the ball over way to much in the first half and had straight tunnel vision.

I get he is trying to attack and out pressure on the defense early. But I was hoping he would look to create more then he did.

Its game one vs the defending champs in Cleveland. So we will see what adjustments JH decides.

Lance will eventually loose his mins to Holiday & Kuz if he doesn't step his game up.

And y is it that players like Lee always come to NY and loose their shooting touch?

there is little evidence that rose is coachable, or jennings for that matter. rose has no business taking 17 shots and getting just 1 assist. if he takes more than 12-13 shots a game that will translate to losses. and i am not even talking about their defense which is just horrible to begin with.

dk7th wrote:

arkrud wrote:

dk7th wrote:Last night's statline for these two players-- both on one-year audition contracts-- indicate that we can expect more of the same from them.

I have said repeatedly that Rose cannot take more shots than KP6.... and he took 17 shots to KP6's 13. Rose also had 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

UNACCEPTABLE

Jennings shoots 1-7, including 0-4 from the 3-point line

UNACCEPTABLE

There was zero-- zip, nada, zilch-- offensive cohesion and no discernible triangle being run last night because guess what: neither rose nor ennings know how to participate in it. they are merely drive and kick, inefficient guards. this sort of play TORPEDOES THE OFFENSE AND HURTS MORALE

UNACCEPTABLE

hornacek looked very disappointed and sad last night-- why? he may have realized that

YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

Running triangle with Rosennings or let them do what they used to do will have the same outcome.
So as soon as we have them for a year why not to try to enhance their games?
We are losing nothing with this 2.
This year outcome is Melo and Phil problem as their windows are closing.
Knicks are not going anywhere this year anyways.
So it should be used to develop young players and continue with establishing winning culture.

i agree, but as you know, a majority of pollyanna posters predict a playoff run with this team. i have said 38 wins is likelier. this year should be about kp6's development, and grooming kuzminskas, hernangomez, and baker to be able to become established.

Thinking that investing 90 million in two starters should equal a stealth tanking season after 1 "jayvee" game.
UNACCEPTABLE

Thinking 3 rookies with 1 game of "jayvee" NBA experience should be the focal point of this season.
UNACCEPTABLE

Constantly opining about the first actual real, legitimate offensive threat the franchise has had at PG in anyone's distant memory, while still wearing your moral papacy.
UNACCEPTABLE

Word jerking yourself into oblivion over a player most of the media has reported could become SMOTY in Jennings.
UNACCEPTABLE

As for the solution being more Triangle, that's also related to the fact that Rose wasn't there but also due to Hornacek not wanting to install so much that the team was too far ahead of Rose. He planned to use the days between game one and game two as a mini camp.

We have a very smart coach and MUCH more talent this year! They will eventually get things tightened up. They will eventually develop better chemistry as well. PATIENCE!!!

dk7th wrote:Last night's statline for these two players-- both on one-year audition contracts-- indicate that we can expect more of the same from them.

I have said repeatedly that Rose cannot take more shots than KP6.... and he took 17 shots to KP6's 13. Rose also had 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

UNACCEPTABLE

Jennings shoots 1-7, including 0-4 from the 3-point line

UNACCEPTABLE

There was zero-- zip, nada, zilch-- offensive cohesion and no discernible triangle being run last night because guess what: neither rose nor ennings know how to participate in it. they are merely drive and kick, inefficient guards. this sort of play TORPEDOES THE OFFENSE AND HURTS MORALE

UNACCEPTABLE

hornacek looked very disappointed and sad last night-- why? he may have realized that

YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

Every Pg we have had since phil came with triangle has looked like a d league player.

I can almost promise you that if we had KYRIE instead of rose, he would be just has bewildered as rose Jennings, calderone, grant, or any fckng guard we have had.

No one cuts, no one screens, they just get loss and start shooting mid range shots. Every single pg we have has said the time and time again, it's a difficult system to run, especially as a pg.

Moonangie wrote:

Malcolm wrote:

dk7th wrote:YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

RUN THE TRIANGLE already. . . will you, for Gawd's sake (!)

Or more precisely: LEARN the Triangle, so that you can run it . . .

Your Triangle preaching will get old sooner than later.

What will get old faster, the bold caps or the Triangle preaching? Maybe we could start a pool...

Moonangie wrote:

Malcolm wrote:

dk7th wrote:YOU CAN'T SIT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS

either run the triangle with players who actually can or scrap it and allow these two clowns to "lead" the team to the lottery.

RUN THE TRIANGLE already. . . will you, for Gawd's sake (!)

Or more precisely: LEARN the Triangle, so that you can run it . . .

Your Triangle preaching will get old sooner than later.

Yeah, Malcolm whats up with you and the triangle? Every post you make is about the triangle.

Welpee wrote:I'm always leery of knick "fans" who predict doom and gloom and can't wait to start threads to proclaim they're right. This is just one game. Geez!

Besides, do people remember what our point guard situation looked like last season. Give it some time. Let's see where we are after 20 games.