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EnySpree
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10/20/2016  9:44 AM

Jennings definitely takes too many risks... but I think it's a positive. Watching him go to work can be energizing to his teammates. He's not forcing the issue for himself. He's usually getting caught trying to jam a pass in a tight spot. The body language of his teammates is more like "wow that would have been dope" or throwing the "my bad" sign back at him. That's positive towards the team and the crowd. It makes the players go harder. It's helping to build that identity and lighting the fire back in the garden like it's supposed to be.

I keep going back to that Brooklyn game where I sat courtside but it's relevant to this argument. The crowd was fired up every time he made a move. Even when he messed up everyone was just ready to see something awesome. Not just the crowd, his teammates were jumping on the bench just as excited as the crowd.

All of this is an incredible phenomenon. It's what basketball is all about. This is what new York is. That's why we're the mecca. Through Jennings flaws we are getting our MOJO back

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10/20/2016  9:45 AM
I just realized we have another Jennings thread. I'm just excited to be talking basketball again
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10/20/2016  10:09 AM
EnySpree wrote:

Jennings definitely takes too many risks... but I think it's a positive. Watching him go to work can be energizing to his teammates. He's not forcing the issue for himself. He's usually getting caught trying to jam a pass in a tight spot. The body language of his teammates is more like "wow that would have been dope" or throwing the "my bad" sign back at him. That's positive towards the team and the crowd. It makes the players go harder. It's helping to build that identity and lighting the fire back in the garden like it's supposed to be.

I keep going back to that Brooklyn game where I sat courtside but it's relevant to this argument. The crowd was fired up every time he made a move. Even when he messed up everyone was just ready to see something awesome. Not just the crowd, his teammates were jumping on the bench just as excited as the crowd.

All of this is an incredible phenomenon. It's what basketball is all about. This is what new York is. That's why we're the mecca. Through Jennings flaws we are getting our MOJO back

Word. He's a dynamic playmaker. The intangible benefit of a PG making incredible passes to setup his teammates more than outweighs the inevitable mistakes that will happen trying too hard to make a play. Hopefully, he keeps turnovers to a minimum.

My son plays PG on AAU (playing above his age group) and does the same thing: makes some unbelievable passes and sometimes some regrettable turnovers. But the guys to whom he gets the ball (some of them 10 inches taller) really appreciate that effort and respect his game because he does not shy away from the action.

I'd MUCH rather have a PG who pushes the pace and gets the ball to scorers than a stiff like Calderon who makes the dump off to Melo to ISO.
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10/20/2016  10:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/20/2016  10:29 AM
Positively out of control sums him up perfectly. There was one pass that he was looking to find KP after he lured like all the defenders away. Would have been a crazy no look pass for a wide open jumper. Then angle was to tight and it got stolen. You can tell though he was looking to feed KP who was getting a lot of clean looks in the flow.
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10/20/2016  11:25 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Positively out of control sums him up perfectly. There was one pass that he was looking to find KP after he lured like all the defenders away. Would have been a crazy no look pass for a wide open jumper. Then angle was to tight and it got stolen. You can tell though he was looking to feed KP who was getting a lot of clean looks in the flow.

And KP saw it too... that spikes that adrenaline as a player. If I see a guy is looking for me like that, I'm energized. I bring it back on defense just to get my guy the ball again to work his magic

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10/20/2016  3:22 PM
mistakes like his are borderline tolerable during the jayvee season, just like poor shot selection, which he also guilty of. but bad shots and mistakes like his will lose playoff games. playing like he does should translate to around 10-15 minutes a game with baker getting more minutes with the triangle-centric second unit.

i like the energy he brings but there's a reason why he keeps getting traded. maybe the coaches can get him to tighten up his game to a level where he is not a negative-sum player, which is what he looks like out there to me.

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10/20/2016  3:25 PM
I like a lot of things Jennings right now. What I don't like is his body language when a teammate makes a mistake. He needs to be a leader.
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10/20/2016  3:29 PM
He heeds to settle...
To play the point one need to have a control of himself to control the team.
He is slimmer JR with bit more brain and passion.
He can be a six man on good year. But this is his ceiling.
No way he can start on winning play-off team.
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10/20/2016  6:24 PM
At this point, he's a very poor mans Jamal Crawford with almost as much talent. If he's a guy who's going to jack up brick after brick and stay away from driving, I'll have no problem with him getting minimal minutes. He needs to drive and get people involved. He's not good enough to be the guy who attempts to go for a double double every game. By double double, I mean points and TOs for his case.

No, this is not me "hating" because I see good stuff in him as well.

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10/20/2016  7:03 PM
I'd like to think that he is allowing himself to try riskier stuff to see what works, who he vibes with, who can catch the tough pass or cut at the right moment--all of this during the preseason, the time to feel these things out with minimal risk. I'd also like to think that he is smart enough to use the knowledge gathered now to make smarter and less reckless plays during the regular season. Not saying that I *think* this is what's happening, just that it's what I *hope* is happening. It's what the preseason's for after all, no?

Also re: Jamal Crawford, they are not similar players IMO. Crawford is an excellent shooter, BJ no. BJ can handle the rock superbly and attack seams, then dish, JC not so much. BJ is a point guard, Crawford can be a PG in a pinch but he is a SG. Jennings is a much, much more talented orchestrator/passer than JC, and JC is a better scorer by a mile.
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10/20/2016  7:14 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Positively out of control sums him up perfectly. There was one pass that he was looking to find KP after he lured like all the defenders away. Would have been a crazy no look pass for a wide open jumper. Then angle was to tight and it got stolen. You can tell though he was looking to feed KP who was getting a lot of clean looks in the flow.

At least its nice to see a guard knife into the paint
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