fishmike wrote:Here is how I rank the roster based on what I have seen in preseason, quotes, throwing poop at wall...

Roster spots:

In the rotation (in no particular order):
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Derrick Rose
3 Joakim Noah
4 Courtney Lee
5 Lance Thomas
6 Brandon Jennings
7 Kristaps Porzingis

In the mix (but on active roster). Figure 2 of these 5 make the rotation:
8 Mindaugas Kuzminskas
9 Sasha Vujacic
10 Willy Hernangomez
11 Marshall Plumlee
12 Chasson Randle

Starts the year on the roster but inactive (DLeague):
13 Maurice Ndour
14 Ron Baker

Might be looking for new homes via a trade
15 Justin Holiday
16 Kyle O'Quinn
17 Louis Amundson

No chance of making NBA roster:
18 JP Tokoto
19 Damien Inglis

I get the impression that the team likes KOQ, but I don't know how the coaching staff feels about him. He has not performed well when on the floor. He's weird. I always feel like he should be better than he is.

Holiday is a mystery. We don't have a lot of SFs on the roster that look like they are going to get big minutes. We haven't seen much of Kuz either. Maybe they are already set on those two guy and are more interested in seeing the rookies play, I just don't know. We can keep one of Holiday/KOQ and still be at 15. Will be curious to see how it plays out. 2 weeks?

Agree. There are two guys seen more as coaching aides, Sasha and Lou. Sasha has shown to be a good defender and unnerved game player. And has a 1m guarantee. You keep him. Think Lou should be given choice to help coach somewhere in organization, be traded to his choice location or released.
With Sasha, Melo, Noah etc, you have enough locker room guys. Agree Tokoto, See Ndour heading to D leagueas well. Shame because I love his energy. Hornacek likes Baker. Likes Holiday's defense. Think they stay which may mean Kuz out. Agree with O'Quinn. Hornacek seems to favor Willy and Plum. But because of contracts, Plum to D league. Randle will join them. So until Lou. O'Quinn, Holiday get traded or released we have.

Melo
KP
Rose
Lee
Noah
Lance
O'Quinn
Jennings
Sasha
Holiday
Baker
Willy
Lou

Sucks, but it's the business side.

not a big fan of holiday and i don't know if tokoto with make it.

amundsen, tokoto, holiday seem like the cuts to me.

hernangomez, plumlee, kuzminskas, baker are a real nice group of players. congrats to clarence gaines! what a great scout.

Finestrg wrote:Hornacek saying that Randle's injury doesn't necessarily hurt his chances of making the roster. Interesting. Sounds like there's a good chance he makes the club.

Yea the Knicks are not going to risk loosing this guy he is too good esp with how injury prone the two guys in front of him are. Randle has made this team . if we realease him a team will pick him up there's no d league for randle he's to polished.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Here is how I rank the roster based on what I have seen in preseason, quotes, throwing poop at wall...

Roster spots:

In the rotation (in no particular order):
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Derrick Rose
3 Joakim Noah
4 Courtney Lee
5 Lance Thomas
6 Brandon Jennings
7 Kristaps Porzingis

In the mix (but on active roster). Figure 2 of these 5 make the rotation:
8 Mindaugas Kuzminskas
9 Sasha Vujacic
10 Willy Hernangomez
11 Marshall Plumlee
12 Chasson Randle

Starts the year on the roster but inactive (DLeague):
13 Maurice Ndour
14 Ron Baker

Might be looking for new homes via a trade
15 Justin Holiday
16 Kyle O'Quinn
17 Louis Amundson

No chance of making NBA roster:
18 JP Tokoto
19 Damien Inglis

I get the impression that the team likes KOQ, but I don't know how the coaching staff feels about him. He has not performed well when on the floor. He's weird. I always feel like he should be better than he is.

Holiday is a mystery. We don't have a lot of SFs on the roster that look like they are going to get big minutes. We haven't seen much of Kuz either. Maybe they are already set on those two guy and are more interested in seeing the rookies play, I just don't know. We can keep one of Holiday/KOQ and still be at 15. Will be curious to see how it plays out. 2 weeks?

Agree. There's a two guys seen more as coaching aides. Sasha and Lou. Sasha has shown to be a good defender and unnerved game player. And has a 1m guarantee. You keep him. Think Lou should be given choice to help coach somewhere in organazation, be traded to his choice location or released.
With Sasha, Melo, Noah etc, you have enough locker room guys. Agree Tokoto, See Ndour heading to D leagueas well. Shame because I love his energy. Hornacek likes Baker. Likes Holiday's defense. Think they stay which may mean Kuz out. Agree with O'Quinn. Hornacek seems to favor Willy and Plum. But because of contracts, Plum to D league. Randle will join them. So until Lou. O'Quinn, Holiday get traded or released we have.

Melo
KP
Rose
Lee
Noah
Lance
O'Quinn
Jennings
Sasha
Holiday
Baker
Willy
Lou

Sucks, but it's the business side.

Fish.....i agree with this list.....but i only see 13 players.....who gets the other two spots. I believe it will be randle, who makes it 14.....and cheese at 15.

I dont think we need both Lou and KOQ on the same team. I believe Lou was added insurance for billy. But billy is quickly moving up to potentially becoming the top backup at center. Again, if practice is any indication, billy was scrimaging with the 4 starters, replacing KP. Unless they dont think he can play center. I believe he can play both positions and he doesnt appear to be a liability on defense and he doesnt get pushed around. Keep in mind, i only saw the open practice and maybe one preseason game.

fishmike wrote:Here is how I rank the roster based on what I have seen in preseason, quotes, throwing poop at wall...

Roster spots:

In the rotation (in no particular order):
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Derrick Rose
3 Joakim Noah
4 Courtney Lee
5 Lance Thomas
6 Brandon Jennings
7 Kristaps Porzingis

In the mix (but on active roster). Figure 2 of these 5 make the rotation:
8 Mindaugas Kuzminskas
9 Sasha Vujacic
10 Willy Hernangomez
11 Marshall Plumlee
12 Chasson Randle

Starts the year on the roster but inactive (DLeague):
13 Maurice Ndour
14 Ron Baker

Might be looking for new homes via a trade
15 Justin Holiday
16 Kyle O'Quinn
17 Louis Amundson

No chance of making NBA roster:
18 JP Tokoto
19 Damien Inglis

I get the impression that the team likes KOQ, but I don't know how the coaching staff feels about him. He has not performed well when on the floor. He's weird. I always feel like he should be better than he is.

Holiday is a mystery. We don't have a lot of SFs on the roster that look like they are going to get big minutes. We haven't seen much of Kuz either. Maybe they are already set on those two guy and are more interested in seeing the rookies play, I just don't know. We can keep one of Holiday/KOQ and still be at 15. Will be curious to see how it plays out. 2 weeks?

I would switch Baker with Plumlee. Want to see what Baker can do with regular minutes. With Randle hurt, this would be a good time. Not saying to ditch Plumlee, but the D league would be a good place for him to work on his offense. Havent really seen anything that could be called offense other than putbacks, flushes under the rim. Maybe work on a mid range jumper.

Holiday reminds me of Tim Hardaway and Grant. He goes through a rough patch, and the second he makes a bucket or two, Holiday acts like he just won the MVP.

blkexec wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Here is how I rank the roster based on what I have seen in preseason, quotes, throwing poop at wall...

Roster spots:

In the rotation (in no particular order):
1 Carmelo Anthony
2 Derrick Rose
3 Joakim Noah
4 Courtney Lee
5 Lance Thomas
6 Brandon Jennings
7 Kristaps Porzingis

In the mix (but on active roster). Figure 2 of these 5 make the rotation:
8 Mindaugas Kuzminskas
9 Sasha Vujacic
10 Willy Hernangomez
11 Marshall Plumlee
12 Chasson Randle

Starts the year on the roster but inactive (DLeague):
13 Maurice Ndour
14 Ron Baker

Might be looking for new homes via a trade
15 Justin Holiday
16 Kyle O'Quinn
17 Louis Amundson

No chance of making NBA roster:
18 JP Tokoto
19 Damien Inglis

I get the impression that the team likes KOQ, but I don't know how the coaching staff feels about him. He has not performed well when on the floor. He's weird. I always feel like he should be better than he is.

Holiday is a mystery. We don't have a lot of SFs on the roster that look like they are going to get big minutes. We haven't seen much of Kuz either. Maybe they are already set on those two guy and are more interested in seeing the rookies play, I just don't know. We can keep one of Holiday/KOQ and still be at 15. Will be curious to see how it plays out. 2 weeks?

Agree. There's a two guys seen more as coaching aides. Sasha and Lou. Sasha has shown to be a good defender and unnerved game player. And has a 1m guarantee. You keep him. Think Lou should be given choice to help coach somewhere in organazation, be traded to his choice location or released.
With Sasha, Melo, Noah etc, you have enough locker room guys. Agree Tokoto, See Ndour heading to D leagueas well. Shame because I love his energy. Hornacek likes Baker. Likes Holiday's defense. Think they stay which may mean Kuz out. Agree with O'Quinn. Hornacek seems to favor Willy and Plum. But because of contracts, Plum to D league. Randle will join them. So until Lou. O'Quinn, Holiday get traded or released we have.

Melo
KP
Rose
Lee
Noah
Lance
O'Quinn
Jennings
Sasha
Holiday
Baker
Willy
Lou

Sucks, but it's the business side.

Fish.....i agree with this list.....but i only see 13 players.....who gets the other two spots. I believe it will be randle, who makes it 14.....and cheese at 15.

I dont think we need both Lou and KOQ on the same team. I believe Lou was added insurance for billy. But billy is quickly moving up to potentially becoming the top backup at center. Again, if practice is any indication, billy was scrimaging with the 4 starters, replacing KP. Unless they dont think he can play center. I believe he can play both positions and he doesnt appear to be a liability on defense and he doesnt get pushed around. Keep in mind, i only saw the open practice and maybe one preseason game.

Overall I am thrilled with how the roster is shaping. I love how Willy looks. Kuz has shown some nice skills and can certainly score it. Baker, NDour, Randle, Plumlee all look like roster keepers or Dleague guys with good potential to make the NBA and Sasha looks like he picked off where last season started. I think competition at the end of the roster is very important, and we see to have a healthy mix there fighting it out

Melo/Lance/Kuzminskas
KP/Kuzminskas/O'Quinn/N'Dour
Rose/Jennings/Baker/Randle
Lee/Thomas/Vujacic/Baker
Noah/Hernangomez/Plumlee

Lance
Jennings
Vujacic
Baker
Hernangomez
Kuzminskas
Randle
O'Quinn
N'Dour
Plumlee

fishmike wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Word

Lawd have mercy look who woke up!

You have been missed

Very true. I have been missed