A litttle adjustment time needed for them to get on the same page defensively. I expect offense to take some time. On defense need better effort and more quality lineups.

KOQ shouldn't be starting ahead of Lance Thomas. Lance gives us a better defensive lineup.

nyknickzingis wrote:They did not look like a team that practiced defense much if at all.
The thing with playing at a higher pace it also means you tend to allow more possessions for your opponents. Tends to mean more points against.

A litttle adjustment time needed for them to get on the same page defensively. I expect offense to take some time. On defense need better effort and more quality lineups.

KOQ shouldn't be starting ahead of Lance Thomas. Lance gives us a better defensive lineup.

NYKBocker wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:They did not look like a team that practiced defense much if at all.
The thing with playing at a higher pace it also means you tend to allow more possessions for your opponents. Tends to mean more points against.

A litttle adjustment time needed for them to get on the same page defensively. I expect offense to take some time. On defense need better effort and more quality lineups.

KOQ shouldn't be starting ahead of Lance Thomas. Lance gives us a better defensive lineup.

I was really disappointed with KOQ. Hopefully it was just a bad night but it follows a disappointing season. He does appear to be in better shape but I think after last year he needs to show improvement soon. I liked what Plumlee did with his minutes but he was playing in garbage time.

I didn't like KOQs play last year and with that 1 preseason, at least to me, it seems nothing has changed. I liked Seraphin better than him last year. KOQ is the only player in our current roster that I want traded.

KOQ is undersized for center. Being so, either he needs to be an athletic freak that is to athletic for other bigs to compete with his athletism. Or a physical bull like Taj Gibson, or a skilled player like David Lee. He doesn't bring a niche.

nychamp wrote:Yeah, after initially thinking of him as Oakley-esque after last preseason, I've pretty much lost faith in his ability to be a real contributor (after watching all of last season). Can't shoot, can't jump, average defender, makes interior passes a moment too late and they get picked off. I don't see him being better than a 3rd string center. I'm hoping Hernangómez can establish himself as the 2nd/3rd string center (behind Noah and Porzingis) and Kyle doesn't need to get significant burn. It's a bad sign if he plays a lot of minutes, IMO.

Willie should beat him out at the end of preseason. Brings more to the table immediately and has more potential in the long run.

nychamp wrote:Yeah, after initially thinking of him as Oakley-esque after last preseason, I've pretty much lost faith in his ability to be a real contributor (after watching all of last season). Can't shoot, can't jump, average defender, makes interior passes a moment too late and they get picked off. I don't see him being better than a 3rd string center. I'm hoping Hernangómez can establish himself as the 2nd/3rd string center (behind Noah and Porzingis) and Kyle doesn't need to get significant burn. It's a bad sign if he plays a lot of minutes, IMO.

knicks need the bench players to run and defend. hernangomez can do both better right now than o'quinn. i do think o'quinn is not a bad passer in halfcourt sets but seems a bit too eager to shoot.

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nychamp wrote:Yeah, after initially thinking of him as Oakley-esque after last preseason, I've pretty much lost faith in his ability to be a real contributor (after watching all of last season). Can't shoot, can't jump, average defender, makes interior passes a moment too late and they get picked off. I don't see him being better than a 3rd string center. I'm hoping Hernangómez can establish himself as the 2nd/3rd string center (behind Noah and Porzingis) and Kyle doesn't need to get significant burn. It's a bad sign if he plays a lot of minutes, IMO.

knicks need the bench players to run and defend. hernangomez can do both better right now than o'quinn. i do think o'quinn is not a bad passer in halfcourt sets but seems a bit too eager to shoot.

Don't you hate when he fakes the pass and puts up a jumper when his teammates cut hard and are open???

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nychamp wrote:Yeah, after initially thinking of him as Oakley-esque after last preseason, I've pretty much lost faith in his ability to be a real contributor (after watching all of last season). Can't shoot, can't jump, average defender, makes interior passes a moment too late and they get picked off. I don't see him being better than a 3rd string center. I'm hoping Hernangómez can establish himself as the 2nd/3rd string center (behind Noah and Porzingis) and Kyle doesn't need to get significant burn. It's a bad sign if he plays a lot of minutes, IMO.

knicks need the bench players to run and defend. hernangomez can do both better right now than o'quinn. i do think o'quinn is not a bad passer in halfcourt sets but seems a bit too eager to shoot.

Don't you hate when he fakes the pass and puts up a jumper when his teammates cut hard and are open???

you mean like every other idiot at the y? yes, yes i hate that.

I expect Willy to take his minutes if he keeps that crap up!